Okay, so I'm sure you've all heard, and I'm quite amazed I haven't seen a thread on this already.
Is it going to be possible to discuss this without it getting into a slanging match, about liberals, and whoever the other mob are
Trumps bound to come into it, and that loopy commie Cortez woman
Not to mention, they're not concentration camps, they're 'detention centers'
And toothpaste and soap etc. Are obviously a ' hot potato'
But hey come on, what's the deal?
Surely this is just plain wrong
Will even the 'build that wall' Donald brigade support this?
Hell no, not if it's costing me taxes, make them sew mail bags
Look it's a serious subject, obviously, so I'm sorry if my sarcasm is misplaced, I guess its just my way of trying not to cry.
Any thoughts?

They democrat's are completely to blame:

1. ICE can only enforce the laws that congress passes. They cannot make up their own policies.

2. The "Open Boarders" ideology they express to the media encourages the masses from central America to show up.

3. Home Land Security and the President has begged congress for money to support these over run facilities and they've refused to pass any resources.

Last week Alexandra Cortez published a video of her looking at a fence and saying this is inhumane. In reality that video was staged. Democrat's are lying to America.

On Friday Nancy Pelosi made a statement: "GIVE THEM ALL AMNESTY"! This is their whole plan. Bring in millions of these people, give the image that the Democrat's allowed this and they will vote Democrat forever. Using illegal entry to change the voting base of the country.

This boarders on treason.

Those who support people like her either won't admit this or can't see it.

Cortez is batchit crazy.

Been all over the country.
Never seen a 'concentration camp' and the only 'detention centers' are what we call prisons.
Sorry to rain reality on your delusional parade.

A report form the Center for Immigration Studies:

Like the proverbial "bulge in the belly of the snake," unusually high numbers of non-Latino migrants, obviously not from Central America, are now reportedly passing from Colombia through Panama on their way to the U.S. southern border. Their numbers range to the tens of thousands, whose vanguards we have already seen at the U.S. Southwest Border in recent months: Cameroonians, Ghanaians, Congolese, Haitians, Cubans, and some from the Middle East.

https://cis.org/Bensman/Next-Influx-Entire-Worlds-Poor-and-Dispossessed

Guess what all of you open boarders liberals? New waves of the world's poor are coming in large numbers. If these are let in the flood gate will only open wider. These people have no education, no money, no trade but have been told America is taking in all and giving free medical and financial support.

So who is going to pay for this and where will they live? Our over burdened facilities will be flooded and the democrat's say: open the boarders.

They have NOTHING. They have no way of traveling here on their own.

WHO IS FINANCING THESE PEOPLE?????????

https://youtu.be/FzZwca4rEWc

Regarding the soap and tooth brushes

I think the immigration process is not made for those who are not of means(I have personally been through it)

I think those who are in most need do have the legal option to seek REFUGE which they have to do INSIDE the country.

I think there has to be someplace for those seeking refuge to stay while they are vetted, and I think the conditions should be humane, toothpaste and soap included.

I think the concentration camp is an emotional trigger phrase thrown around like 'socialism'. Although there can be elements in common between almost any two things. For instance, although we only associate CONCENTRATION CAMP with the holocaust, these structures were around long before that time for the purpose of MASS ARMED detention.

but semantics aside. I always think treating people humanely is the LEAST we can do as human beings.

Apparently in many cases, children are being separated from their parents. Which is perhaps, the most twisted thing about all of this. It seems to be somewhat of a policy.
I mean, why keep them there, locked up, in the first place.
Okay, they tried to get in, you didn't want them, they failed. So let them go
I mean is there a trial? Is there a sentence? How long are you going to lock them up for?
You moan about your tax dollars been wasted on it, then isn't it cheaper just to let them go?
And perhaps if the U.S. didn't have such a meddling negative impact on much of the rest of America, then they wouldn't be trying to sneak in, in the first place

I seen these pictures. Humanity is non existant here.

In other countries what happens when you enter illegally? Do they make you a citizen and Grant you free money and living quarters?

The distinction is in 'illegal' of course. But in the US we allow REFUGE, which is not illegal, since we allow it. And refuge REQUIRES one to be INSIDE the country to request it. And in the US, we do not try to be like other countries, but to be the best US we can be, and let other countries be LIKE US.

FWIW, if the holding facilities are not to the liking of the illegals who are housed there they are free to return to Mexico or their country of origin. All they have to do is say they want to return to the boarder.

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The distinction is in 'illegal'

If this ideology is maintained the 90,000 per month will turn into a much larger flood.

And who is going to pay for it all? At the current rate there will be 1.000,000 in just 2019 alone. Are the sanctuary cities of California going to foot the bill?

For those who like to use the immigration of the late 19th and early 20th century you may want to study up on the limitations the government placed on those coming in.

My grandparents on both sides immigrated just after 1900. My mothers parents from Germany and my fathers from Sweden. The idea of open boarders back then is unfounded.

By 1900 all immigrants had to obtain entry paperwork from the American embassy in their particular country. There were physical and mental health restrictions as well as the head of family had to have a trade.

Boatloads of sick, mentally ill, criminal and no work ability were sent back. By 1900 if one didn't have proper documentation the shipping companies wouldn't even let you buy a ticket let alone board the ship. These are facts the democrat's, national media and even many universities will never talk about. The question is, WHY?

By the 1890's the American government realized other governments were unloading their sick, criminals and no ability people on America and they began to limit who could come. Both sets of grand parents attested to this.

FWIW, world war I ended the great influx of people.

but semantics aside. I always think treating people humanely is the LEAST we can do as human beings

Last week six Latino pastors from Texas visited a number of these "concentration camps". They were shocked to find that the conditions were nothing like what the national media has reported.

During the Clinton and Obama administrations the boarders needed to be protected. Why all of a sudden the change in attitude?

Because American's voted Trump in and Hillary out. The are trying to manipulate the voting population by bringing in millions of illegal people and tell them to vote democratic. Stuffing the ballot box.

We should be upgrading Ellis Island to handle this humanitarian crisis.

there isnt a change in attitude. There are people saying we are already protecting borders and additional money on a wall is not needed or useful, nor is treating families inhumanely.

there are people recognizing that coming to seek refuge is NOT the same as illegal immigration and people should stop being demonized and criminalized for attempting to do so.

There are plenty of other places that they could seek refuge. Or they could stay and fight to change the area they come from, but it seems that freeloading is the easiest route that so many take. And I'm often more offended by "legal" immigrants, who is dumb enough to think its a good idea to take in people from Somalia? Just by relocating people doesn't magically make them better people. Scum is scum no matter where its located.

abolish our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror to stop creating refugees.

You folks seem to forget this country is made up of immigrants. Even Native Americans came from someplace else originally. And this country has always not treated them too kindly.

I have no problem with immigrants, the problem comes when they want to remake our country to suit them. We speak English, we believe in freedoms, we have a strong work ethic, and we believe in separation of church and state. If those basic American principles don't suit them, they need to go back home where they came from.