What happened to the old fashioned dating rules for example bringing over flowers,handwritten notes or cards, calling instead of texting,etc

These still go on trust me! However, it does depend on the lady and if that is an expectation. It has become easier to remember some of the key dates and even others with new technology - and for some ladies this is an absolute must, for others, well they prefer other things!
Opening doors, picking ladies up by car, bowing to their needs always goes on still. However, sometimes you need to make sure your partner knows it is wanted and needed!

Those weren't rules they were rituals and symbols.
Rituals are only really followed if everyone in the group believes in them and/or they are rewarded (or punished for not being followed).
Symbols only work if everyone agrees to their meaning.

What does bringing flowers on a date mean anymore? Do the colors and type have significance? Or with global warming and save the whales and rain forest is it just murdering plants for the sake of "feelz?"
What's the difference between cutting flowers and putting them in a vase until they rot and are discarded, and hanging a deer head on the wall?
What do flowers represent? A thought on someone's true feelings expressed via color and fragrance embodied in a rare and expensive arrangement? Or that they had 20 bucks and quick access to a grocery store?

Handwritten notes and cards? Cursive handwriting is no longer being taught. What use or value to a note with poor handwriting saying something that Hallmark has probably already said. Not to mention save the trees. Killing the planet and global warming so you can get a card from someone at any point you may "ghost?" How about affirmations on a post it note placed in each pair of underwear you own by a guy after the first night you spent together? Romantic? Or invasion of privacy as he went through your drawers?

Calling instead of texting? Is there a guarantee you are willing to sit and talk at any moment they may call? Guys would be happy to call if you answered the phone whenever they called, absolutely every time, and acted ecstatic and thrilled that they did so. Is calling never an inconvenience? Do you sometimes screen calls? Do you sometimes just not feel like talking or talking very long? Do you ever feel awkward in silence on the phone? Do you spend any length of time telling anyone (even telemarketers) that you're happy they called you rather than texted or sent email?



"Old fashioned dating rules" or rituals and symbols are a two way street.
They require just as much (usually more) effort and work to validate and reciprocate them as required to enact them.

As was said " it does depend on the lady and if that is an expectation."
There is nothing wrong with expectations.
But it should be understood expectations are reciprocal.
You can have all the expectations you want, but realize if you want your expectations fulfilled theirs need to be filled as well. Reciprocity.
That is a means of communication in a relationship, of people figuring out what's going on.

If you simply have expectations of their behavior and avoid learning and/or fulfilling any of theirs, then you don't really have expectations you have demands and ultimatums.

Nothing happened to them. But you have to meet someone of course.

The fish you catch,
depends on the bait you use.

I think it was called ‘wooing’ way back in the day. I think sexting has taken it’s place.
Kind of sad.

Good point Rock, I still do many of these things quite often. Of course it's dependent on her and what the situation dictates.
I'll be 63 in a couple of weeks and didn't grow up with a cell phone in hand.
I really hate texting and as was covered in a recent thread here the destruction of the English language but that's another topic.

Raise your drink if you remember when phones were usually on the wall (probably in the kitchen) and had a dial........

And I wonder how Tommy Tutone’s Jenny would have gone with the 10 digit phone numbers?

555-867-5309

That throws the whole catchy tune off

They are dead

Flowers have gotten expensive.
It's getting harder to find paper.
Then it'll be way easy to find out if you're a baritone or a tenor.

And I suppose you expect him to write volumes of poetry, and throw his cape over puddles.

Men are cheap. Nowadays they only wanna hookup instead of going out to eat. Its all about sex. Yes i remember rotary phones back in the day. You could here you neighbors talking if you listen long enough. Used to prank call my mom in another part of the house. Lols. I was the original bart simpson.

I can agree with most of this.

Why get 'hung up' on how you get there?
Try embracing the moment you share with the other and the feelings that happen naturally.

I'm not cheap and at almost 63 i'm interested in more than sex.

hi flora ..... are you talking about the Victorian times ???
As for giving a date flowers that is not a rule .. it is a choice :

Well duh... What's wrong with that

Not when you meet the right guy...
It's like Rock says: The fish you catch depends on the bait you use.
Plus, as a woman you can guide the man into different behaviour by conveying what you do like and what not. It comes down to a woman having the right 'tools' to do this, and I think that's where it often goes wrong.

I guess you've been fishing with the wrong bait (see Rock's reply).

I've had a man turn up with a box of expensive bonbons on a first date. Before meeting he'd suggested to do an entire day, and maybe a hotel...
my reply: -I'm not that kind of girl, I don't move that fast. Let's meet for coffee in the afternoon.
He quickly adjusted his story, seeing me differently, not being a pushover, and buying me expensive bonbons instead. And no, he did NOT try to get sex. The message had been very clear.

Another first date bought me a gorgeous rose quartz crystal of some 3" diameter as he knew I loved crystals. He'd gone to a crystal shop especially for me and chose the crystal intuitively.

Men being cheap and only after sex? Not my experience.
I've made it a point to also have a small gift for a date if he's driven quite a bit to meet me. Showing gratitude is important.