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Topic: to grieve or not to grieve?
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Sir Dino One Love ☝️💚

Wed 08/21/19 12:18 PM





Million dollah question, maybe theres a market for re-education camps like they had in Nam after they beat the yanks..laugh smokin

Didn't the nazis try that or am I thinking of something else? laugh

Pol Pot had a dig at it too..laugh

Funny how when you don't have to pay for a train ride they run on time and when you pay £50 for a ticket to London it's always frigin late! laugh

Tis always the way laugh
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Unknow

Wed 08/21/19 10:22 PM


Difficult things...
An acquaintance of mine lost her 29 yr old daughter 3 years ago when a totally drunk idiot hit her motorbike with his van.
She died on the spot, her husband -who was behind her on the bike- was badly injured and transported by trauma helicopter to R'dam hospital.
He missed his wife's funeral and everything as he was in a coma.

The trial on that is still going. It had ended after 3 years and 3 different courts. He got 6 years he initially had gotten.
But... then his smart-@$$ lawyer objected to that, stating there was a technical hiccup with the sentence. It had been manslaughter and he claimed it couldn't be because blablabla...
The case was dismissed and has to go to court again, putting the entire family through all that misery a second time.

Now how would you feel if you're the parent or husband in such situation? Not sure. I'd want him to get as much prison time as possible, but would I wish him dead?
Difficult to fathom.

Thing is... does it alleviate your pain when such a person dies? I don't think so.
You don't get your loved one back.
The ego will be thrilled, 'there you go, you MF!!!" but the pain won't go away.


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Khoirul Amar

Mon 05/02/22 12:23 AM

Difficult things...
An acquaintance of mine lost her 29 yr old daughter 3 years ago when a totally drunk idiot hit her motorbike with his van.
She died on the spot, her husband -who was behind her on the bike- was badly injured and transported by trauma helicopter to R'dam hospital.
He missed his wife's funeral and everything as he was in a coma.

The trial on that is still going. It had ended after 3 years and 3 different courts. He got 6 years he initially had gotten.
But... then his smart-@$$ lawyer objected to that, stating there was a technical hiccup with the sentence. It had been manslaughter and he claimed it couldn't be because blablabla...
The case was dismissed and has to go to court again, putting the entire family through all that misery a second time.

Now how would you feel if you're the parent or husband in such situation? Not sure. I'd want him to get as much prison time as possible, but would I wish him dead?
Difficult to fathom.

Thing is... does it alleviate your pain when such a person dies? I don't think so.
You don't get your loved one back.
The ego will be thrilled, 'there you go, you MF!!!" but the pain won't go away.

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Douglas

Mon 05/02/22 06:10 AM


...I continued to think of people that I've been over joyed to hear they've gone!
Will be different for everyone.
Examples for me, terrorists, bullies, some really nasty people I've known over the years, the guy who raped my friends daughter (who died in mysterious circumstances ) and many others.
So my point is, is it ok to be happy that certain people die or am I wrong to feel that kind of joy?

For me, there is a subtle difference between wanting someone to die, and wishing they were not alive or wanting them off the planet.

It is subtle but one of the big differences is my own attitude. Do I want revenge, or do I want cleansing?

Revenge, like hatred, is damaging to both individual and society. Cleansing—wanting a society without such people in it—offers the chance for rehabilitation of those people (cleansing by changing) and avoids the trap of their evil (if that is what they have) infecting me.

So long as your hatred is not overpowering, there can be a certain gladness that someone is no longer among us. Only an overpowering hatred will not be satisfied even when someone is dead. Overall, the number of nice people vastly outweighs the number of nasty ones, so we should mostly feel for all those who die needlessly, and feel for those they leave behind.