Mingle2 apple store icon
Try Mingle2 app for better experience
Community Recent My Topics
Community > General Religion Chat
Topic: Faith for believers
Reply
msharmony's photo

msharmony

Sun 02/23/20 04:48 PM









Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


People tend to equate religion with individuals who follow religion. Humans are bloody and wicked, and those humans can choose whatever denominations they want and claim to follow whatever denomination they want. Nothing in how Christ lived set an example supporting slaughter, kidnapping, or slavery. I am not a Muslim but know muslims, and I don't doubt their faith and values are similarly misrepresented by making the example out of the extremists in their faith, instead of the norms.


You are a special lady miss Harmony and there were several instances in which I wanted to share more knowledge with you. But it is good to wander from the TRUTH, before becoming part of it. But let me warn you that the Christ you are referring to is NOT the biblical Christ, and the biblical Christ warned us to take heed that no men deceive us.


Which Bible, and how is it not 'biblical' Christ? How can it be validated who the 'deceivers' actually are? Maybe they are the ones encouraging us to not believe the Bible, or that other bibles are more 'real'. This is the challenge and the complexity of 'faith'. It is not about any one man or woman or what they say, it is about what our spirit tells us.

Again, I love the way you think, msharmony. But it is not as complex as you think for God is not the author of confusion. How can we VALIDATE OUR BELIEVES?
Did you noticed that the churches NEVER compare the Holy bible with HISTORY and make you think it is partially true and partially mythology? And did you also noticed that BIBLICAL PROPHECIES and LINEAGES are being neglected?

Well indeed they gave you one Jesus, and hid the other. If you keep telling a lie over and over, many will believe it's the truth. The Jesus they gave you has his own doctrine, and he is not the one who told you how to pray [Matthew 6:9].

AS A MATTER OF FACT (YOU LIKE FACTS, DON'T YOU?), the Jesus you worship CAN'T BE FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE. lET'S LEAVE IT HERE, FOR YOU TO DIGRESS!



I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.

I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.

I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.


Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.


So my dear sister, let's be more specific. If you were robbed and the police asked you who robbed you, what would you have to do? You would have to give a DESCRIPTION of the robber. Let's say the thief looked like Jesus, the one you know, and I am the Police. How would you describe him to me?


Let's look at your questions for a brief moment:

You: I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.
My Answer: So you think! Let's say my sister is going to bake a cake for you, for the 1st time.
But instead, I baked the cake and gave it to you. Would you know?
(That's called witchcraft).

You:I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.
My answer: Right and they taught you that Jesus baked the cake for you and then they gave you their own cake.

You:I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.
My answer: They tore pages from the Holy Bible were Christ was speaking and teaching. Do you believe these pages were NON SECULAR? Was Christ a liar or did they make him a liar? And because you leave secular history to history teachers, you become vulnerable.

You:Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.
My answer: Let's look at one prophecy which was removed from the Holy Bible:
[Maccabees 3:48] And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.
What is your understanding of this verse and do you know when in history this happened?







circular logic.

If you make a statement about what is in the Holy Bible, unless one is speaking about a different Holy Bible(Which I also asked you to clarify), one cannot say that someone is not worshiping what is in the Holy Bible.

If you say your book is more of the truth than someone else's truth, unless there is a time travel machine that gave you personally the experiences written of, then you have no more or less reason to be considered having the 'truth'.


Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/23/20 04:50 PM
tdion's photo

tdion

Sun 02/23/20 05:06 PM



Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


offtopic

There are questions asked at the beginning of this thread. You have answered not one, but have attacked other people's beliefs with zero persuasion.

Christian theology is the study of Christian belief and practice. Such study concentrates primarily upon the texts of the Old Testament and the New Testament as well as on Christian tradition. Christian theologians use biblical exegesis, rational analysis and argument. Theology might be undertaken to help the theologian better understand Christian tenets; to make comparisons between Christianity and other traditions; to defend Christianity against objections and criticism; to facilitate reforms in the Christian church and to assist in the propagation of Christianity.

Share your beliefs and how you came to faith as asked by the thread's topic or do you have something to hide?


If what I wrote is not the truth, then tell me where I went off!
tdion's photo

tdion

Sun 02/23/20 05:06 PM



Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


offtopic

There are questions asked at the beginning of this thread. You have answered not one, but have attacked other people's beliefs with zero persuasion.

Christian theology is the study of Christian belief and practice. Such study concentrates primarily upon the texts of the Old Testament and the New Testament as well as on Christian tradition. Christian theologians use biblical exegesis, rational analysis and argument. Theology might be undertaken to help the theologian better understand Christian tenets; to make comparisons between Christianity and other traditions; to defend Christianity against objections and criticism; to facilitate reforms in the Christian church and to assist in the propagation of Christianity.

Share your beliefs and how you came to faith as asked by the thread's topic or do you have something to hide?


If what I wrote is not the truth, then tell me where I went off!
tdion's photo

tdion

Sun 02/23/20 05:06 PM



Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


offtopic

There are questions asked at the beginning of this thread. You have answered not one, but have attacked other people's beliefs with zero persuasion.

Christian theology is the study of Christian belief and practice. Such study concentrates primarily upon the texts of the Old Testament and the New Testament as well as on Christian tradition. Christian theologians use biblical exegesis, rational analysis and argument. Theology might be undertaken to help the theologian better understand Christian tenets; to make comparisons between Christianity and other traditions; to defend Christianity against objections and criticism; to facilitate reforms in the Christian church and to assist in the propagation of Christianity.

Share your beliefs and how you came to faith as asked by the thread's topic or do you have something to hide?


If what I wrote is not the truth, then tell me where I went off!
tdion's photo

tdion

Sun 02/23/20 05:12 PM










Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


People tend to equate religion with individuals who follow religion. Humans are bloody and wicked, and those humans can choose whatever denominations they want and claim to follow whatever denomination they want. Nothing in how Christ lived set an example supporting slaughter, kidnapping, or slavery. I am not a Muslim but know muslims, and I don't doubt their faith and values are similarly misrepresented by making the example out of the extremists in their faith, instead of the norms.


You are a special lady miss Harmony and there were several instances in which I wanted to share more knowledge with you. But it is good to wander from the TRUTH, before becoming part of it. But let me warn you that the Christ you are referring to is NOT the biblical Christ, and the biblical Christ warned us to take heed that no men deceive us.


Which Bible, and how is it not 'biblical' Christ? How can it be validated who the 'deceivers' actually are? Maybe they are the ones encouraging us to not believe the Bible, or that other bibles are more 'real'. This is the challenge and the complexity of 'faith'. It is not about any one man or woman or what they say, it is about what our spirit tells us.

Again, I love the way you think, msharmony. But it is not as complex as you think for God is not the author of confusion. How can we VALIDATE OUR BELIEVES?
Did you noticed that the churches NEVER compare the Holy bible with HISTORY and make you think it is partially true and partially mythology? And did you also noticed that BIBLICAL PROPHECIES and LINEAGES are being neglected?

Well indeed they gave you one Jesus, and hid the other. If you keep telling a lie over and over, many will believe it's the truth. The Jesus they gave you has his own doctrine, and he is not the one who told you how to pray [Matthew 6:9].

AS A MATTER OF FACT (YOU LIKE FACTS, DON'T YOU?), the Jesus you worship CAN'T BE FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE. lET'S LEAVE IT HERE, FOR YOU TO DIGRESS!



I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.

I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.

I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.


Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.


So my dear sister, let's be more specific. If you were robbed and the police asked you who robbed you, what would you have to do? You would have to give a DESCRIPTION of the robber. Let's say the thief looked like Jesus, the one you know, and I am the Police. How would you describe him to me?


Let's look at your questions for a brief moment:

You: I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.
My Answer: So you think! Let's say my sister is going to bake a cake for you, for the 1st time.
But instead, I baked the cake and gave it to you. Would you know?
(That's called witchcraft).

You:I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.
My answer: Right and they taught you that Jesus baked the cake for you and then they gave you their own cake.

You:I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.
My answer: They tore pages from the Holy Bible were Christ was speaking and teaching. Do you believe these pages were NON SECULAR? Was Christ a liar or did they make him a liar? And because you leave secular history to history teachers, you become vulnerable.

You:Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.
My answer: Let's look at one prophecy which was removed from the Holy Bible:
[Maccabees 3:48] And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.
What is your understanding of this verse and do you know when in history this happened?







circular logic.

If you make a statement about what is in the Holy Bible, unless one is speaking about a different Holy Bible(Which I also asked you to clarify), one cannot say that someone is not worshiping what is in the Holy Bible.

If you say your book is more of the truth than someone else's truth, unless there is a time travel machine that gave you personally the experiences written of, then you have no more or less reason to be considered having the 'truth'.





I didn't made any of the statements you wrote. There is no circular Logic with me! I simply asked to answer few questions. That's all. You didn't touched the prophecy which I requested!
msharmony's photo

msharmony

Sun 02/23/20 05:23 PM











Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


People tend to equate religion with individuals who follow religion. Humans are bloody and wicked, and those humans can choose whatever denominations they want and claim to follow whatever denomination they want. Nothing in how Christ lived set an example supporting slaughter, kidnapping, or slavery. I am not a Muslim but know muslims, and I don't doubt their faith and values are similarly misrepresented by making the example out of the extremists in their faith, instead of the norms.


You are a special lady miss Harmony and there were several instances in which I wanted to share more knowledge with you. But it is good to wander from the TRUTH, before becoming part of it. But let me warn you that the Christ you are referring to is NOT the biblical Christ, and the biblical Christ warned us to take heed that no men deceive us.


Which Bible, and how is it not 'biblical' Christ? How can it be validated who the 'deceivers' actually are? Maybe they are the ones encouraging us to not believe the Bible, or that other bibles are more 'real'. This is the challenge and the complexity of 'faith'. It is not about any one man or woman or what they say, it is about what our spirit tells us.

Again, I love the way you think, msharmony. But it is not as complex as you think for God is not the author of confusion. How can we VALIDATE OUR BELIEVES?
Did you noticed that the churches NEVER compare the Holy bible with HISTORY and make you think it is partially true and partially mythology? And did you also noticed that BIBLICAL PROPHECIES and LINEAGES are being neglected?

Well indeed they gave you one Jesus, and hid the other. If you keep telling a lie over and over, many will believe it's the truth. The Jesus they gave you has his own doctrine, and he is not the one who told you how to pray [Matthew 6:9].

AS A MATTER OF FACT (YOU LIKE FACTS, DON'T YOU?), the Jesus you worship CAN'T BE FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE. lET'S LEAVE IT HERE, FOR YOU TO DIGRESS!



I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.

I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.

I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.


Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.


So my dear sister, let's be more specific. If you were robbed and the police asked you who robbed you, what would you have to do? You would have to give a DESCRIPTION of the robber. Let's say the thief looked like Jesus, the one you know, and I am the Police. How would you describe him to me?


Let's look at your questions for a brief moment:

You: I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.
My Answer: So you think! Let's say my sister is going to bake a cake for you, for the 1st time.
But instead, I baked the cake and gave it to you. Would you know?
(That's called witchcraft).

You:I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.
My answer: Right and they taught you that Jesus baked the cake for you and then they gave you their own cake.

You:I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.
My answer: They tore pages from the Holy Bible were Christ was speaking and teaching. Do you believe these pages were NON SECULAR? Was Christ a liar or did they make him a liar? And because you leave secular history to history teachers, you become vulnerable.

You:Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.
My answer: Let's look at one prophecy which was removed from the Holy Bible:
[Maccabees 3:48] And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.
What is your understanding of this verse and do you know when in history this happened?







circular logic.

If you make a statement about what is in the Holy Bible, unless one is speaking about a different Holy Bible(Which I also asked you to clarify), one cannot say that someone is not worshiping what is in the Holy Bible.

If you say your book is more of the truth than someone else's truth, unless there is a time travel machine that gave you personally the experiences written of, then you have no more or less reason to be considered having the 'truth'.





I didn't made any of the statements you wrote. There is no circular Logic with me! I simply asked to answer few questions. That's all. You didn't touched the prophecy which I requested!


I am addressing only your claim that I do not worship a Christ that is 'anywhere' in the Holy Bible.

I did not address the prophecy because, again, it is only your 'claim' that it is something that was removed.

tdion's photo

tdion

Sun 02/23/20 05:35 PM



Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


offtopic

There are questions asked at the beginning of this thread. You have answered not one, but have attacked other people's beliefs with zero persuasion.

Christian theology is the study of Christian belief and practice. Such study concentrates primarily upon the texts of the Old Testament and the New Testament as well as on Christian tradition. Christian theologians use biblical exegesis, rational analysis and argument. Theology might be undertaken to help the theologian better understand Christian tenets; to make comparisons between Christianity and other traditions; to defend Christianity against objections and criticism; to facilitate reforms in the Christian church and to assist in the propagation of Christianity.

Share your beliefs and how you came to faith as asked by the thread's topic or do you have something to hide?


Just like many my parents were Catholic and I was baptized in a Catholic Church.
I went to Catholic schools and you must understand that the Priests were programmed to tell lies, because I was born in a 3rd world country. They would never uplift my people because we are a conquered people. You most certainly can't relate to this, because you are a Caucasian woman and heaven was made for you. Even today, there are Africans who believe that Jesus looks like you!


Edited by tdion on Sun 02/23/20 06:23 PM
SpaceCodet's photo

SpaceCodet

Sun 02/23/20 06:26 PM

Baptized episcopal. I'm from a mick family so went to either cathlic or episcopal church. You go to your own church or the closest to your own faith is how the mick aspact works.

Stopped going to any churches when I was 16. Then figured out my own belief system over time. Read up on other religions which didn't fit. Others are always freaking out about their religions/philosophical belief. I know mine is true because I don't care if someone prays to a rock, god or nothing at all. All the arguments and noise doesn't change my faith in the least.

God: Life is an extension of God. Life exists therefore God does. Just like an ant can't understand what we are, we can't understand what God is. So it's a fool's eran to waste your time on such thoughts of, "What is God".

General Principles: The Web of Life, Yin&Yang, cause and effect, Destiny and Fate

Death: There's no way of proving "Life after death" 100%. I lean towards the "Continuation" belief that you are kinetic energy and after death you become potential energy. So when I die I'm being torched so I'll be apart of the atmosphere and become a lightning bolt during a storm. Not adverse to those who believe they'll go to "The Here After".

Well, that's just an overview. It gets more in depth when expanded out. Hope it gives you an overall view of where I stand.
tdion's photo

tdion

Sun 02/23/20 06:32 PM












Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


People tend to equate religion with individuals who follow religion. Humans are bloody and wicked, and those humans can choose whatever denominations they want and claim to follow whatever denomination they want. Nothing in how Christ lived set an example supporting slaughter, kidnapping, or slavery. I am not a Muslim but know muslims, and I don't doubt their faith and values are similarly misrepresented by making the example out of the extremists in their faith, instead of the norms.


You are a special lady miss Harmony and there were several instances in which I wanted to share more knowledge with you. But it is good to wander from the TRUTH, before becoming part of it. But let me warn you that the Christ you are referring to is NOT the biblical Christ, and the biblical Christ warned us to take heed that no men deceive us.


Which Bible, and how is it not 'biblical' Christ? How can it be validated who the 'deceivers' actually are? Maybe they are the ones encouraging us to not believe the Bible, or that other bibles are more 'real'. This is the challenge and the complexity of 'faith'. It is not about any one man or woman or what they say, it is about what our spirit tells us.

Again, I love the way you think, msharmony. But it is not as complex as you think for God is not the author of confusion. How can we VALIDATE OUR BELIEVES?
Did you noticed that the churches NEVER compare the Holy bible with HISTORY and make you think it is partially true and partially mythology? And did you also noticed that BIBLICAL PROPHECIES and LINEAGES are being neglected?

Well indeed they gave you one Jesus, and hid the other. If you keep telling a lie over and over, many will believe it's the truth. The Jesus they gave you has his own doctrine, and he is not the one who told you how to pray [Matthew 6:9].

AS A MATTER OF FACT (YOU LIKE FACTS, DON'T YOU?), the Jesus you worship CAN'T BE FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE. lET'S LEAVE IT HERE, FOR YOU TO DIGRESS!



I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.

I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.

I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.


Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.


So my dear sister, let's be more specific. If you were robbed and the police asked you who robbed you, what would you have to do? You would have to give a DESCRIPTION of the robber. Let's say the thief looked like Jesus, the one you know, and I am the Police. How would you describe him to me?


Let's look at your questions for a brief moment:

You: I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.
My Answer: So you think! Let's say my sister is going to bake a cake for you, for the 1st time.
But instead, I baked the cake and gave it to you. Would you know?
(That's called witchcraft).

You:I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.
My answer: Right and they taught you that Jesus baked the cake for you and then they gave you their own cake.

You:I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.
My answer: They tore pages from the Holy Bible were Christ was speaking and teaching. Do you believe these pages were NON SECULAR? Was Christ a liar or did they make him a liar? And because you leave secular history to history teachers, you become vulnerable.

You:Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.
My answer: Let's look at one prophecy which was removed from the Holy Bible:
[Maccabees 3:48] And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.
What is your understanding of this verse and do you know when in history this happened?







circular logic.

If you make a statement about what is in the Holy Bible, unless one is speaking about a different Holy Bible(Which I also asked you to clarify), one cannot say that someone is not worshiping what is in the Holy Bible.

If you say your book is more of the truth than someone else's truth, unless there is a time travel machine that gave you personally the experiences written of, then you have no more or less reason to be considered having the 'truth'.





I didn't made any of the statements you wrote. There is no circular Logic with me! I simply asked to answer few questions. That's all. You didn't touched the prophecy which I requested!


I am addressing only your claim that I do not worship a Christ that is 'anywhere' in the Holy Bible.

I did not address the prophecy because, again, it is only your 'claim' that it is something that was removed.



It was removed for a specific reason. Unless you understand the narrative of the bible and who you are in the Holy Bible, and what your life purpose is , you will remain in the congregation of the forgotten!
msharmony's photo

msharmony

Sun 02/23/20 06:45 PM













Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


People tend to equate religion with individuals who follow religion. Humans are bloody and wicked, and those humans can choose whatever denominations they want and claim to follow whatever denomination they want. Nothing in how Christ lived set an example supporting slaughter, kidnapping, or slavery. I am not a Muslim but know muslims, and I don't doubt their faith and values are similarly misrepresented by making the example out of the extremists in their faith, instead of the norms.


You are a special lady miss Harmony and there were several instances in which I wanted to share more knowledge with you. But it is good to wander from the TRUTH, before becoming part of it. But let me warn you that the Christ you are referring to is NOT the biblical Christ, and the biblical Christ warned us to take heed that no men deceive us.


Which Bible, and how is it not 'biblical' Christ? How can it be validated who the 'deceivers' actually are? Maybe they are the ones encouraging us to not believe the Bible, or that other bibles are more 'real'. This is the challenge and the complexity of 'faith'. It is not about any one man or woman or what they say, it is about what our spirit tells us.

Again, I love the way you think, msharmony. But it is not as complex as you think for God is not the author of confusion. How can we VALIDATE OUR BELIEVES?
Did you noticed that the churches NEVER compare the Holy bible with HISTORY and make you think it is partially true and partially mythology? And did you also noticed that BIBLICAL PROPHECIES and LINEAGES are being neglected?

Well indeed they gave you one Jesus, and hid the other. If you keep telling a lie over and over, many will believe it's the truth. The Jesus they gave you has his own doctrine, and he is not the one who told you how to pray [Matthew 6:9].

AS A MATTER OF FACT (YOU LIKE FACTS, DON'T YOU?), the Jesus you worship CAN'T BE FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE. lET'S LEAVE IT HERE, FOR YOU TO DIGRESS!



I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.

I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.

I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.


Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.


So my dear sister, let's be more specific. If you were robbed and the police asked you who robbed you, what would you have to do? You would have to give a DESCRIPTION of the robber. Let's say the thief looked like Jesus, the one you know, and I am the Police. How would you describe him to me?


Let's look at your questions for a brief moment:

You: I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.
My Answer: So you think! Let's say my sister is going to bake a cake for you, for the 1st time.
But instead, I baked the cake and gave it to you. Would you know?
(That's called witchcraft).

You:I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.
My answer: Right and they taught you that Jesus baked the cake for you and then they gave you their own cake.

You:I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.
My answer: They tore pages from the Holy Bible were Christ was speaking and teaching. Do you believe these pages were NON SECULAR? Was Christ a liar or did they make him a liar? And because you leave secular history to history teachers, you become vulnerable.

You:Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.
My answer: Let's look at one prophecy which was removed from the Holy Bible:
[Maccabees 3:48] And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.
What is your understanding of this verse and do you know when in history this happened?







circular logic.

If you make a statement about what is in the Holy Bible, unless one is speaking about a different Holy Bible(Which I also asked you to clarify), one cannot say that someone is not worshiping what is in the Holy Bible.

If you say your book is more of the truth than someone else's truth, unless there is a time travel machine that gave you personally the experiences written of, then you have no more or less reason to be considered having the 'truth'.





I didn't made any of the statements you wrote. There is no circular Logic with me! I simply asked to answer few questions. That's all. You didn't touched the prophecy which I requested!


I am addressing only your claim that I do not worship a Christ that is 'anywhere' in the Holy Bible.

I did not address the prophecy because, again, it is only your 'claim' that it is something that was removed.



It was removed for a specific reason. Unless you understand the narrative of the bible and who you are in the Holy Bible, and what your life purpose is , you will remain in the congregation of the forgotten!



Okay. I suppose I should trust that YOU have that knowledge and I don't.

tdion's photo

tdion

Sun 02/23/20 07:12 PM


Baptized episcopal. I'm from a mick family so went to either cathlic or episcopal church. You go to your own church or the closest to your own faith is how the mick aspact works.

Stopped going to any churches when I was 16. Then figured out my own belief system over time. Read up on other religions which didn't fit. Others are always freaking out about their religions/philosophical belief. I know mine is true because I don't care if someone prays to a rock, god or nothing at all. All the arguments and noise doesn't change my faith in the least.

God: Life is an extension of God. Life exists therefore God does. Just like an ant can't understand what we are, we can't understand what God is. So it's a fool's eran to waste your time on such thoughts of, "What is God".

General Principles: The Web of Life, Yin&Yang, cause and effect, Destiny and Fate

Death: There's no way of proving "Life after death" 100%. I lean towards the "Continuation" belief that you are kinetic energy and after death you become potential energy. So when I die I'm being torched so I'll be apart of the atmosphere and become a lightning bolt during a storm. Not adverse to those who believe they'll go to "The Here After".

Well, that's just an overview. It gets more in depth when expanded out. Hope it gives you an overall view of where I stand.



I think that it's a misconception that we have to understand everything we read or what has been told to us. As a young man of just 16 years old I was fascinated with the paranormal and learned as much as I could. There is none or little that I don't know about spirituality. Now, I am mostly referring to the bible because I understood that God is not going to come down from Heaven to teach us, but he put His words into the mouth of Christ and his prophets. So, I study, meditate and read His precepts as King David did.

The bible gives us many instances of reincarnation and even tells us that there is an afterlife. Here are two examples of the afterlife and one of reincarnation.
There are more but this will give you an idea!

[John 14:2] In my fathers house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. This is Christ speaking to his disciples. If you believe in Christ then this verse alone, should be 100% proof for you.

[Ecclesiastes 12:7] Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

One instance of reincarnation can be found in John 9:1.
Edited by tdion on Sun 02/23/20 07:25 PM
tdion's photo

tdion

Sun 02/23/20 07:17 PM














Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


People tend to equate religion with individuals who follow religion. Humans are bloody and wicked, and those humans can choose whatever denominations they want and claim to follow whatever denomination they want. Nothing in how Christ lived set an example supporting slaughter, kidnapping, or slavery. I am not a Muslim but know muslims, and I don't doubt their faith and values are similarly misrepresented by making the example out of the extremists in their faith, instead of the norms.


You are a special lady miss Harmony and there were several instances in which I wanted to share more knowledge with you. But it is good to wander from the TRUTH, before becoming part of it. But let me warn you that the Christ you are referring to is NOT the biblical Christ, and the biblical Christ warned us to take heed that no men deceive us.


Which Bible, and how is it not 'biblical' Christ? How can it be validated who the 'deceivers' actually are? Maybe they are the ones encouraging us to not believe the Bible, or that other bibles are more 'real'. This is the challenge and the complexity of 'faith'. It is not about any one man or woman or what they say, it is about what our spirit tells us.

Again, I love the way you think, msharmony. But it is not as complex as you think for God is not the author of confusion. How can we VALIDATE OUR BELIEVES?
Did you noticed that the churches NEVER compare the Holy bible with HISTORY and make you think it is partially true and partially mythology? And did you also noticed that BIBLICAL PROPHECIES and LINEAGES are being neglected?

Well indeed they gave you one Jesus, and hid the other. If you keep telling a lie over and over, many will believe it's the truth. The Jesus they gave you has his own doctrine, and he is not the one who told you how to pray [Matthew 6:9].

AS A MATTER OF FACT (YOU LIKE FACTS, DON'T YOU?), the Jesus you worship CAN'T BE FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE. lET'S LEAVE IT HERE, FOR YOU TO DIGRESS!



I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.

I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.

I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.


Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.


So my dear sister, let's be more specific. If you were robbed and the police asked you who robbed you, what would you have to do? You would have to give a DESCRIPTION of the robber. Let's say the thief looked like Jesus, the one you know, and I am the Police. How would you describe him to me?


Let's look at your questions for a brief moment:

You: I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.
My Answer: So you think! Let's say my sister is going to bake a cake for you, for the 1st time.
But instead, I baked the cake and gave it to you. Would you know?
(That's called witchcraft).

You:I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.
My answer: Right and they taught you that Jesus baked the cake for you and then they gave you their own cake.

You:I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.
My answer: They tore pages from the Holy Bible were Christ was speaking and teaching. Do you believe these pages were NON SECULAR? Was Christ a liar or did they make him a liar? And because you leave secular history to history teachers, you become vulnerable.

You:Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.
My answer: Let's look at one prophecy which was removed from the Holy Bible:
[Maccabees 3:48] And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.
What is your understanding of this verse and do you know when in history this happened?







circular logic.

If you make a statement about what is in the Holy Bible, unless one is speaking about a different Holy Bible(Which I also asked you to clarify), one cannot say that someone is not worshiping what is in the Holy Bible.

If you say your book is more of the truth than someone else's truth, unless there is a time travel machine that gave you personally the experiences written of, then you have no more or less reason to be considered having the 'truth'.





I didn't made any of the statements you wrote. There is no circular Logic with me! I simply asked to answer few questions. That's all. You didn't touched the prophecy which I requested!


I am addressing only your claim that I do not worship a Christ that is 'anywhere' in the Holy Bible.

I did not address the prophecy because, again, it is only your 'claim' that it is something that was removed.



It was removed for a specific reason. Unless you understand the narrative of the bible and who you are in the Holy Bible, and what your life purpose is , you will remain in the congregation of the forgotten!



Okay. I suppose I should trust that YOU have that knowledge and I don't.



Yes, because he knew you before you were formed in the womb! You must humble yourself to the LORD for the proper understanding. I already told you that you are in Idolatry, the most hated sin, but you mist the point.
Edited by tdion on Sun 02/23/20 07:36 PM
Ladywind7's photo

Ladywind7

Mon 02/24/20 01:33 AM




Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


offtopic

There are questions asked at the beginning of this thread. You have answered not one, but have attacked other people's beliefs with zero persuasion.

Christian theology is the study of Christian belief and practice. Such study concentrates primarily upon the texts of the Old Testament and the New Testament as well as on Christian tradition. Christian theologians use biblical exegesis, rational analysis and argument. Theology might be undertaken to help the theologian better understand Christian tenets; to make comparisons between Christianity and other traditions; to defend Christianity against objections and criticism; to facilitate reforms in the Christian church and to assist in the propagation of Christianity.

Share your beliefs and how you came to faith as asked by the thread's topic or do you have something to hide?


If what I wrote is not the truth, then tell me where I went off!


You can not communicate with people civilly. You do not understand my thread and the questions.
Stop bashing your "truth" on to people. No one is going to be convinced by your evasiveness and the darkness you hide your lamp under. You are not transparent and I see nothing of Jesus in you. He teaches love and even children understand Him. You try to teach, but you simply come across as a zealot for an unholy sect/cult that you think is superior to any other religion. If you can not actually have a normal conversation...move on
offtopic
tdion's photo

tdion

Mon 02/24/20 05:48 AM





Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


offtopic

There are questions asked at the beginning of this thread. You have answered not one, but have attacked other people's beliefs with zero persuasion.

Christian theology is the study of Christian belief and practice. Such study concentrates primarily upon the texts of the Old Testament and the New Testament as well as on Christian tradition. Christian theologians use biblical exegesis, rational analysis and argument. Theology might be undertaken to help the theologian better understand Christian tenets; to make comparisons between Christianity and other traditions; to defend Christianity against objections and criticism; to facilitate reforms in the Christian church and to assist in the propagation of Christianity.

Share your beliefs and how you came to faith as asked by the thread's topic or do you have something to hide?


If what I wrote is not the truth, then tell me where I went off!


You can not communicate with people civilly. You do not understand my thread and the questions.
Stop bashing your "truth" on to people. No one is going to be convinced by your evasiveness and the darkness you hide your lamp under. You are not transparent and I see nothing of Jesus in you. He teaches love and even children understand Him. You try to teach, but you simply come across as a zealot for an unholy sect/cult that you think is superior to any other religion. If you can not actually have a normal conversation...move on
offtopic


Not quite true, but since this is your topic I will of course respect your wishes!
Ladywind7's photo

Ladywind7

Mon 02/24/20 05:59 AM

Tdion. I do love you. I am praying so very much that you will know the real Jesus :heart: :sob::sob::sob::rose:
Ɔʎɹɐx's photo

Ɔʎɹɐx

Mon 02/24/20 06:21 AM


Tdion. I do love you. I am praying so very much that you will know the real Jesus :heart: :sob::sob::sob::rose:

The only real I know so far is real Slim Shady. Why don't you pray for me to know the real Jesus as well?
Ladywind7's photo

Ladywind7

Mon 02/24/20 06:24 AM



Tdion. I do love you. I am praying so very much that you will know the real Jesus :heart: :sob::sob::sob::rose:

The only real I know so far is real Slim Shady. Why don't you pray for me to know the real Jesus as well?


I do, so stop your nagging. Lol, give me peace.
Ɔʎɹɐx's photo

Ɔʎɹɐx

Mon 02/24/20 06:24 AM

And there's the real care Bear as well
msharmony's photo

msharmony

Mon 02/24/20 07:03 AM















Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


People tend to equate religion with individuals who follow religion. Humans are bloody and wicked, and those humans can choose whatever denominations they want and claim to follow whatever denomination they want. Nothing in how Christ lived set an example supporting slaughter, kidnapping, or slavery. I am not a Muslim but know muslims, and I don't doubt their faith and values are similarly misrepresented by making the example out of the extremists in their faith, instead of the norms.


You are a special lady miss Harmony and there were several instances in which I wanted to share more knowledge with you. But it is good to wander from the TRUTH, before becoming part of it. But let me warn you that the Christ you are referring to is NOT the biblical Christ, and the biblical Christ warned us to take heed that no men deceive us.


Which Bible, and how is it not 'biblical' Christ? How can it be validated who the 'deceivers' actually are? Maybe they are the ones encouraging us to not believe the Bible, or that other bibles are more 'real'. This is the challenge and the complexity of 'faith'. It is not about any one man or woman or what they say, it is about what our spirit tells us.

Again, I love the way you think, msharmony. But it is not as complex as you think for God is not the author of confusion. How can we VALIDATE OUR BELIEVES?
Did you noticed that the churches NEVER compare the Holy bible with HISTORY and make you think it is partially true and partially mythology? And did you also noticed that BIBLICAL PROPHECIES and LINEAGES are being neglected?

Well indeed they gave you one Jesus, and hid the other. If you keep telling a lie over and over, many will believe it's the truth. The Jesus they gave you has his own doctrine, and he is not the one who told you how to pray [Matthew 6:9].

AS A MATTER OF FACT (YOU LIKE FACTS, DON'T YOU?), the Jesus you worship CAN'T BE FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE. lET'S LEAVE IT HERE, FOR YOU TO DIGRESS!



I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.

I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.

I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.


Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.


So my dear sister, let's be more specific. If you were robbed and the police asked you who robbed you, what would you have to do? You would have to give a DESCRIPTION of the robber. Let's say the thief looked like Jesus, the one you know, and I am the Police. How would you describe him to me?


Let's look at your questions for a brief moment:

You: I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.
My Answer: So you think! Let's say my sister is going to bake a cake for you, for the 1st time.
But instead, I baked the cake and gave it to you. Would you know?
(That's called witchcraft).

You:I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.
My answer: Right and they taught you that Jesus baked the cake for you and then they gave you their own cake.

You:I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.
My answer: They tore pages from the Holy Bible were Christ was speaking and teaching. Do you believe these pages were NON SECULAR? Was Christ a liar or did they make him a liar? And because you leave secular history to history teachers, you become vulnerable.

You:Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.
My answer: Let's look at one prophecy which was removed from the Holy Bible:
[Maccabees 3:48] And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.
What is your understanding of this verse and do you know when in history this happened?







circular logic.

If you make a statement about what is in the Holy Bible, unless one is speaking about a different Holy Bible(Which I also asked you to clarify), one cannot say that someone is not worshiping what is in the Holy Bible.

If you say your book is more of the truth than someone else's truth, unless there is a time travel machine that gave you personally the experiences written of, then you have no more or less reason to be considered having the 'truth'.





I didn't made any of the statements you wrote. There is no circular Logic with me! I simply asked to answer few questions. That's all. You didn't touched the prophecy which I requested!


I am addressing only your claim that I do not worship a Christ that is 'anywhere' in the Holy Bible.

I did not address the prophecy because, again, it is only your 'claim' that it is something that was removed.



It was removed for a specific reason. Unless you understand the narrative of the bible and who you are in the Holy Bible, and what your life purpose is , you will remain in the congregation of the forgotten!



Okay. I suppose I should trust that YOU have that knowledge and I don't.



Yes, because he knew you before you were formed in the womb! You must humble yourself to the LORD for the proper understanding. I already told you that you are in Idolatry, the most hated sin, but you mist the point.


or perhaps there is confusion between being humbled to the LORD and being humbled to a man on a social media comment board


I did not miss any point, except how sure you are that you possess the truth and others who do not believe as you do don't.

tdion's photo

tdion

Mon 02/24/20 06:17 PM
















Christianity and Muslims are the most bloody and wicked religions on the planet. With all the ongoing molestation today of children, men, women, beast and the ongoing slaughter, kidnapping and slavery especially by Muslims, one must surely re-consider joining these religions. This is the Greek, Roman and Ottoman Empires, all over again.


People tend to equate religion with individuals who follow religion. Humans are bloody and wicked, and those humans can choose whatever denominations they want and claim to follow whatever denomination they want. Nothing in how Christ lived set an example supporting slaughter, kidnapping, or slavery. I am not a Muslim but know muslims, and I don't doubt their faith and values are similarly misrepresented by making the example out of the extremists in their faith, instead of the norms.


You are a special lady miss Harmony and there were several instances in which I wanted to share more knowledge with you. But it is good to wander from the TRUTH, before becoming part of it. But let me warn you that the Christ you are referring to is NOT the biblical Christ, and the biblical Christ warned us to take heed that no men deceive us.


Which Bible, and how is it not 'biblical' Christ? How can it be validated who the 'deceivers' actually are? Maybe they are the ones encouraging us to not believe the Bible, or that other bibles are more 'real'. This is the challenge and the complexity of 'faith'. It is not about any one man or woman or what they say, it is about what our spirit tells us.

Again, I love the way you think, msharmony. But it is not as complex as you think for God is not the author of confusion. How can we VALIDATE OUR BELIEVES?
Did you noticed that the churches NEVER compare the Holy bible with HISTORY and make you think it is partially true and partially mythology? And did you also noticed that BIBLICAL PROPHECIES and LINEAGES are being neglected?

Well indeed they gave you one Jesus, and hid the other. If you keep telling a lie over and over, many will believe it's the truth. The Jesus they gave you has his own doctrine, and he is not the one who told you how to pray [Matthew 6:9].

AS A MATTER OF FACT (YOU LIKE FACTS, DON'T YOU?), the Jesus you worship CAN'T BE FOUND IN THE HOLY BIBLE. lET'S LEAVE IT HERE, FOR YOU TO DIGRESS!



I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.

I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.

I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.


Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.


So my dear sister, let's be more specific. If you were robbed and the police asked you who robbed you, what would you have to do? You would have to give a DESCRIPTION of the robber. Let's say the thief looked like Jesus, the one you know, and I am the Police. How would you describe him to me?


Let's look at your questions for a brief moment:

You: I do not know what you mean by 'the jesus you worship'. I am worshipping the one that is in the Holy Bible.
My Answer: So you think! Let's say my sister is going to bake a cake for you, for the 1st time.
But instead, I baked the cake and gave it to you. Would you know?
(That's called witchcraft).

You:I never noticed what the church compares, they are there to teach, not compare.
My answer: Right and they taught you that Jesus baked the cake for you and then they gave you their own cake.

You:I have the resource from which they teach. I leave secular history to history teachers.
My answer: They tore pages from the Holy Bible were Christ was speaking and teaching. Do you believe these pages were NON SECULAR? Was Christ a liar or did they make him a liar? And because you leave secular history to history teachers, you become vulnerable.

You:Any side of the debate can use the same statements you use here. Faith is the answer.
My answer: Let's look at one prophecy which was removed from the Holy Bible:
[Maccabees 3:48] And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images.
What is your understanding of this verse and do you know when in history this happened?







circular logic.

If you make a statement about what is in the Holy Bible, unless one is speaking about a different Holy Bible(Which I also asked you to clarify), one cannot say that someone is not worshiping what is in the Holy Bible.

If you say your book is more of the truth than someone else's truth, unless there is a time travel machine that gave you personally the experiences written of, then you have no more or less reason to be considered having the 'truth'.





I didn't made any of the statements you wrote. There is no circular Logic with me! I simply asked to answer few questions. That's all. You didn't touched the prophecy which I requested!


I am addressing only your claim that I do not worship a Christ that is 'anywhere' in the Holy Bible.

I did not address the prophecy because, again, it is only your 'claim' that it is something that was removed.



It was removed for a specific reason. Unless you understand the narrative of the bible and who you are in the Holy Bible, and what your life purpose is , you will remain in the congregation of the forgotten!



Okay. I suppose I should trust that YOU have that knowledge and I don't.



Yes, because he knew you before you were formed in the womb! You must humble yourself to the LORD for the proper understanding. I already told you that you are in Idolatry, the most hated sin, but you mist the point.


or perhaps there is confusion between being humbled to the LORD and being humbled to a man on a social media comment board


I did not miss any point, except how sure you are that you possess the truth and others who do not believe as you do don't.



I am no longer welcome to this topic, but you can private message me, if you wish to discuss further! Enjoy your stay here.