Topic: A question of theoretical circumstances
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LarchTree

Sun 02/02/20 02:51 PM

When would you allow mind reading?
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soufiehere

Sun 02/02/20 03:05 PM

Probably never, our last frontier of freedom.
But I would LUV to get inside the mind of an animal,
like a dog or cat and spend the day ;-)
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Cosmic Charlie

Sun 02/02/20 03:13 PM

Going on a date I recon. The women always say they can read mens minds.

we read minds all the time. like just knowing someone is going to say or do something.
Some of us are really good at it. ((( look into my eyes)))muhahamuhahahaha
You suddenly want ice cream. OOOh the coolness of it the creamyness, what flavour will you have?

Your thinking no, thats an example of hypmotism and auto suggestion. and your quite right.
I could be wrong though..:thumbsup:
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motowndowntown

Sun 02/02/20 03:30 PM

When I learn how to do the Vulcan mind meld.
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Seamus

Sun 02/02/20 05:11 PM

Have you ever seen Babylon 5? I recommend it. Come back to me after you've seen it and we'll talk, if you think it's necessary.
Edited by Seamus on Sun 02/02/20 05:14 PM
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IgorFrankensteen

Sun 02/02/20 06:03 PM

There are some great old science fiction stories about the challenges of mind reading.

The most enlightening ones, point out that being able to read minds would NOT necessarily improve communication or understanding.

Aside from the fact that most peoples minds are active on multiple levels, and therefore full of noise, that the individual who owns the mind, has to filter, there is the problem that lots of us do and say things in our minds in PLACE of what we would actually do.

Someone reading MY mind, would have to know an insane degree of detail about my life, before they could make any sense of what they'd "hear."

So my answer is, I don't know. It would depend more on who was asking, than anything else, I guess.
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Ladywind7

Mon 02/03/20 12:55 AM


When would you allow mind reading?


Allow? It is not possible, let alone setting a time to allow it :smiley:
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Mon 02/03/20 04:40 AM

Not ever :) And if a Vulcan would try, kick him in the nuts, while praying his nuts are down there like a human's. laugh
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notbeold

Mon 02/03/20 06:05 AM

I've had my head read by a very accurate clairvoyant, and I shut her out of some parts.

Apart from when concentrating on one thing, and even then, there is no time or place suitable for it. Anyone familiar with A.D.I.D.A.S. ?
I am Legion, and the chatter going on would drive anyone else mad. It would be X rated quite a bit, with arguing, self abuse (not that sort), bargaining, making decisions, and being scattered.
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Tom4Uhere

Mon 02/03/20 11:12 AM


When would you allow mind reading?

If you consider the mind is, Governed Thought, I already allow others to read my mind every time I interact with them on purpose.
To mind is to focus thoughts rationally with or without intent.
Every time I communicate with someone I express my mind verbally, written or visually. Technically, anyone who can understand is mind reading.

Mind reading is not the same as thought reading. Thoughts which result in my mind, come from many influences within my head.
Let's see...
There is reality stimuli, rational decision; moral and emotional fortitude, imagination, desire; personal, society and cultural restrictions, fantasy, personal discipline, animalistic urges and sub-conscious anxiety.
All these things and more occur in my thoughts and my 'mind' sorts it to focus. My mind, 'minds' my unfiltered thoughts.

If someone were able to read/experience my Unfiltered Thoughts they would go insane from the over-load. Not because of any particular things but because it would likely clash with their own unfiltered thoughts.
We are all the culmination of our own personal life experiences.
To suddenly have all of someone else's life experiences in your head, along with your own would make you go insane.

Mind Uploading is a goal in Transhumanism.
Whole brain emulation, mind upload or brain upload is the hypothetical futuristic process of scanning the mental state of a particular brain substrate and copying it to a computer.
The movie Transcendence (2014) explores mind uploading.

The label, Mind Uploading is inaccurate.
If the definition is Whole Brain Emulation more than the mind is being uploaded. The mind is merely the governed part of thought.
Governed thought alone is not what makes us, us.
We are more than just our minds.
Without the unfiltered influences, the mind cannot exist.
Its one of the major roadblocks to true artificial intelligence.

Think about the computers in your car.
They have sensors, a CPU and actuators.
Our bodies also have sensors (senses), a CPU (brain) and actuators (muscles) yet we also have creativity, discipline, imagination and irrational thought.
Your car doesn't.

The CPU in you car has a 'programmed mind' which is unable to operate outside those set parameters. Sure, we can program algorithms so it seems like it has abilities similar to a person but it truly doesn't have a mind like us.

Mind reading also includes empathy.
Each of us have a certain degree of empathic ability.
Not only do we transmit some emotional states, we detect some of them as well.
Love requires a certain degree of empathic and mind expression.
Love also requires a certain degree of empathic and mind reception.

Sadly, not everyone has the same levels of ability to express or receive empathic or mind states.
Not everyone has the same control of their unfiltered thoughts or emotional states.
This results in miscommunication.
Bad communication results in anger, divorce and war.

Being able to communicate effectively is not being able to express or detect unfiltered thought but to express and detect the mind.

People read my mind all the time but they do not grasp the source of that mind they read. Only the controlled release I choose.
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LarchTree

Tue 02/04/20 04:30 AM

That is an awesome thought; it is so true. Governed thought without privacy is nonsense.

High quality communication is the closest one thing to mind reading, without drifting into confusion, invisibility, vulnerability, or loss of identity. And good communication is ever on the front of improvement.

Thanks for the thoughts.