Quite a write Dust4fun.
I thought it worthwhile to break to paragraphs so that we can follow each of the points in this breathless flow (if you don't mind).
Disclaimer: Does not mean I agree with your views but in the absence of any other rationalizations willing to keep an open mind.
3 million cases in the United States is only 1% of the population, I'm sure the number is more like 2.5%-3% due to low testing levels and some people not showing symptoms.
3 million people die in the US every year and many of these people that have died would have been dead in less than a year anyway, and many would have been dead with in a few years. It will be a couple years before we can figure the real number on the over all effect to see how big the spike of deaths really is.
Humans are very selfish creatures, if grandma was going to die but the family was told they could keep her alive for 2 more months if they could come up with $200,000 most families would say sorry grandma we can't do it even if they could. However if the doctor said wait a minute what if we could get that money from the insurance company? Then of coarse they would say yes, keep her alive even though she will just be a vegetable laying in a bed.
What they don't think of is little Jose who's parents can not afford insurance because of the greed of others and does not get his disease diagnosed and ends up dying and loses 70 years of his life because the greed of the family that wanted grandmas corpse lay there for 2 more months.
Circular argument: Grandma's life could be extended by 2 months for $250,000 but if it is extended, Grandma would be in vegetative state!
non sequitur Alternatively, little Jose dies because (greed / grandma's insurance) resources were diverted for Grandma's existence.
These "Expert's" telling us all about covid have how many years of experience dealing with SARS and Corona? An "Expert" should have at least 10 to 20 years experience, these people are just making things up as they go along.
Do they have a bunch of rats running around with masks in a lab somewhere? They should be doing a blind survey of everyone being tested to find out where these people have been, how many they have been around, and how often they wear a mask, and then compare these numbers for positive vs negative test results to find out what factors affect the out come the most.
They could also make everyone carry around a teddy bear, because a big part of wearing masks is the "sense" of security that people get from it. However this can do as much, if not more harm because people will take more risks because of this sense of security.
World Economy As far as China goes we knew of this problem over 20 years ago and there are far too many people that believe the world economy is such a great thing for everyone, even though its only good for a few and many places become worse off because of it.
China has stole much of technology they have and now they are using it against others. China used to push their wears thru places like Wal-Mart. Then Amazon became the biggest player. And now with the covid lock down they have actually started pushing their products dirrect cutting out the middle man. They have huge warehouses in the US and are collecting the payments for products directly only paying for the shipping and maybe a kick back to Amazon, EBay, or similar taking even more money out of the US economy as they work toward their world domination.
China did not steal CCP's terms for doing business in China to America Inc is: You share the technology as part of installation. America Inc. obliged for two reasons. 1. They did not expect Chinese engineers to develop the tech to next level - Huawei is great example
2. Under the belief that if America Inc. did not oblige then the European competition was waiting to do so. For instance South Korea's industrial rise is in part due from UK selling out high tech companies to them. A great example is Wilcox & Babcock (power plant boilers) sold out to Doosan Heavy Industries.
Rocketman: And their government is treating their people like rocketman from North Korea does, locking them up, or killing them for speaking out about their country.
DebtYou said the US debt to China is $1.1 trillion, that number seems extremely low being we are spending at least $3 trillion on covid, we just keep printing money like its no big deal, and yes that will catch up with us eventually.
Trump stands in way of Socialism The reason people in the US are still concerned about the politics is that Trump is the only one addressing the issues with China, even if not all that well. While the Democrates want to give China everything they want, perhaps because the love socialism and see this as a way to get it in the United States.
Community Involvement The communities have to be responsible for handling the covid outbreak, not the federal government. What is good for one area does not always affect another. Many people have seen this as a "cry wolf" scenario when the 1% or 3% of the population that have been affected are no where near their area, and the governments locking down areas where there is little to no risk has made these people very mad about the government control, not to mention the economic impact it has had in places where it didn't have to.
Young only once People have very short attention spans and by pushing all this on the people before it was necessary has made it so people just want to move on with their lives. You are only young once and taking away someone childhood to allow an old person to live a few more months is not fair. When you go to Disney world when you are 5 its magical, when you go at 35 its frustrating and expensive. So many children have missed out on school, prom, graduation, birthday parties, many other parts of their childhood in areas that where not high in risk. They will never get that back.
Many poor communities both in the cities, but also rural, have kids that depend on school for getting feed right, and their parents rely on the schools to watch their kids while they work. The federal and state governments have stuck their noses where they don't belong, its about time to give the country and control back to the people it belongs to.
Dust4fun's write encourages us to step back and view the bigger picture.
In my view, Trump could have made a difference by involving church leaders and other non-governmental organizations - just like when he was running his election campaign. The reason is there is shortage of leadership in countries like India, Brazil; where we look up to America's leadership / public policy - then copy / paste these programs.
Cardinal Point It is tempting to say that Trump did not rise to the occasion but as you pointed out, leaders from various communities did not come forward either. After all no government wants to show law enforcement weakness by extending invitations to people to lay down the law within their communities. That could be chaotic.
Seems as if Dem's also failed to rise to occasion Dems could have easily created a movement on the lines of 'Black Lives Matter'.
Encouraging to see NYC's mayor, who initially dilly-dallied on lock down - changed his mind and handed over leadership to Governor as competent authority. Now Mr. Cuomo - leading the way on school reopening in August ...
Brave new world - and we are watching.
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jaish
on Mon 07/20/20 12:11 AM