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Zion

Sat 06/06/20 11:24 PM

Today they protest the police.

Today they demand to defund the police.

1 year from today they will protest the rise in crime.

1 year from today they will ask why didn't they come when I needed help.

Edited by Zion on Sat 06/06/20 11:25 PM
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oldkid46

Sun 06/07/20 06:38 AM

Defunding the police will be great for gun sales and conceal/carry training!
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Zion

Sun 06/07/20 07:15 AM

Funny that the people decrying the police will be the ones to need them the most when the excrement hits the rotary device...

Defund them all you want..saves me from tax increases...

I have my property posted, have free concealed carry without permit and have Castle Legislation in my favor...I don't need the police to handle my problems.
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Unknow

Sun 06/07/20 11:54 PM

Why don't Black Lives Matter focus on 'black-on-black' crime
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Larsson71

Mon 06/08/20 01:29 AM


Why don't Black Lives Matter focus on 'black-on-black' crime
They won't because it'll blow the persona that the media, etc, are trying to create wide apart. It'll also leave some arse kissing celebrities and other important people looking like complete fools for jumping on the bandwagon also! The way I see it is all life is precious and every life matters, but we don't have to go about smashing things up and causing trouble, to get our point of protest across!
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Zion

Mon 06/08/20 02:40 AM

The Cost of protesting the loss of one life is now up to 15 additional victims. When do those lives matter?
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Larsson71

Mon 06/08/20 02:48 AM


The Cost of protesting the loss of one life is now up to 15 additional victims. When do those lives matter?
Race is only fluid to the media, except when it matters to them!
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Zion

Mon 06/08/20 03:01 AM



The Cost of protesting the loss of one life is now up to 15 additional victims. When do those lives matter?
Race is only fluid to the media, except when it matters to them!


The Irony is that most of these additional victims were black...
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Rock

Mon 06/08/20 03:28 AM

That would be called, a "self score".

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Larsson71

Mon 06/08/20 07:20 AM

12 year old kids are on Snapchat, Facebook, etc, saying ”F**k the cops” What cops? Paw Patrol? :joy::joy:
Edited by Larsson71 on Mon 06/08/20 07:21 AM
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jaish

Mon 06/08/20 10:16 PM


A career Criminal...

Resisting arrest after committing another just another in a long list of felonies...

Sounds like a legit reason to burn down buildings, loot and destroy businesses, deface monuments.




PSX,
Instead of MalcolmX (maybe) you used the picture of MLK

I consider King of the stature of Lincoln after the Gettysburg address.
You may not be aware but King had visited Chennai in 1959, city where I live in; and addressed college students here. MLK had come here to study Gandhi's methods of non-violence.



In Bombay (now Mumbai), he had a particularly spirited discussion with African students who challenged him on whether nonviolence could be effective in the struggle against colonialism in Africa, according to the Martin Luther King Jr. Research and Education Institute at Stanford University.




While speaking to Christian congregants in India King concluded with, “It is one of the strange ironies of the modern world that the greatest Christian of the 20th century was not a member of the Christian church.”


In 1962, Nelson Mandela (SA) was arrested. He was released in 1990 but that's another Gandhian story.

My point in this interruption includes, (yes, I've been following this thread); why would police use extreme force on a unarmed person (criminal or not) when he is drunk, or incapacitated because of drugs?





Edited by jaish on Mon 06/08/20 10:40 PM
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Zion

Mon 06/08/20 10:35 PM

It's called IRONY...

Of course I would use the picture of a man who professed peaceful protest rather than the man who originally abdicated violence to forward that message.

That in itself is the message behind the words...

SMH
Edited by Zion on Mon 06/08/20 10:38 PM
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jaish

Mon 06/08/20 10:48 PM

Another brilliant escape. :sigh:
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notbeold

Tue 06/09/20 05:48 AM

My recollection from school was that the first 'cops' were formed by a Mister Peel, in England, and they were known as Peelers. They were to reduce street crime, eg. catching pickpockets and apprehending thugs.

The selection criteria was to be old enough to be 'respected', and young enough to administer a thrashing.

World wide they seem to concentrate on administering thrashings, of one sort or another.

Because of the selection criteria, naturally a group of similar people would favor more similar people in their ranks, not diversity.

Carry that forward, with barely educated, barely trained 'officers', festooned with deadly weapons, with a gang mentality, and great powers of 'authority', but not broad shoulders and thick skins, and you have a bad mix.

Then rumour that those people over there are bad, and keep an eye on them, regardless of the facts, and you have instant oppression with prejudice.

Then the incarceration cycle can begin.

Another thing is that there is a difference between police, who (should) administer constitutional/corporate law - legal;
and Sheriffs and Marshals, who administer actual law - lawful.
Legal is not the same as lawful. Not always interchangeable.
Statute law (police) doesn't apply to free men. Most people are not free though. Sheriffs work in court rooms, where police can only attend as complainants and witnesses, not as court officials.

All lives matter; a uniform does not make a thug not a thug; voters allow agendas and laws to be considered, and passed or rejected; your representatives are doing what you let them.
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Larsson71

Tue 06/09/20 06:16 AM


My recollection from school was that the first 'cops' were formed by a Mister Peel, in England, and they were known as Peelers. They were to reduce street crime, eg. catching pickpockets and apprehending thugs.

The selection criteria was to be old enough to be 'respected', and young enough to administer a thrashing.

World wide they seem to concentrate on administering thrashings, of one sort or another.

Because of the selection criteria, naturally a group of similar people would favor more similar people in their ranks, not diversity.

Carry that forward, with barely educated, barely trained 'officers', festooned with deadly weapons, with a gang mentality, and great powers of 'authority', but not broad shoulders and thick skins, and you have a bad mix.

Then rumour that those people over there are bad, and keep an eye on them, regardless of the facts, and you have instant oppression with prejudice.

Then the incarceration cycle can begin.

Another thing is that there is a difference between police, who (should) administer constitutional/corporate law - legal;
and Sheriffs and Marshals, who administer actual law - lawful.
Legal is not the same as lawful. Not always interchangeable.
Statute law (police) doesn't apply to free men. Most people are not free though. Sheriffs work in court rooms, where police can only attend as complainants and witnesses, not as court officials.

All lives matter; a uniform does not make a thug not a thug; voters allow agendas and laws to be considered, and passed or rejected; your representatives are doing what you let them.
Well said, respect! :thumbsup::sunglasses:
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Zion

Tue 06/09/20 06:38 AM

and yet the people most concerned here on this site don't seem to actually live here...

it must be great to live in a country where all the problems are fixed so you can concentrate on other worldly problems.

tell us your secret to utopia...

us poor racist americans need your help now.

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notbeold

Tue 06/09/20 07:20 AM

We have similar problems in australia, just less well reported. Our protests are usually peaceful, so don't attract attention; the media suppress incidents by not reporting them; racism and injustice still happens here daily.
Don't ask countries occupied by folk who used terrorism and genocide to profit, how not to cause harm. Ask happy peaceful nations.
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Unknow

Wed 06/10/20 01:10 AM

So on the news this morning they interviewed a black guy. Reference to statues being taken down. He compared churchill with Hitler saying they were both guilty of murdering millions of people 🤬
This is why they will loose support imo.
He should think about it, if Hitler had of won the chances are that he would of irradicated black people to along with all the other ethnic groups!
Yet where are these protesters when modern day slavery is rife?
Easy to blame history and what it achieved. Not so for the present day.
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mysticalview21

Wed 06/10/20 05:34 AM

when they say refund the police department ... all they mean... is put some of that $ back in the neighborhoods... for programs that can help them ...
and having these police live in the areas ...not out of city's like they do now ... that has been a lot of the issue in the first place ... I do believe their will be good changes coming ... an more peaceful streets ... and I am not saying that all bad will change ... but this is good place to start...:heart:

Cities and states are barring police from using chokeholds and tear gas

Elected officials are banning police chokeholds and the use of tear gas.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/6/6/21282453/cities-reform-police-nationwide-protests-george-floyd


At least 11 cities and municipalities banning chokeholds in policing

Phoenix.
Los Angeles.
Sacramento.
San Diego.
Broward County (Florida)
Miami.
Chicago.
Washington, D.C.

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Edited by mysticalview21 on Wed 06/10/20 05:45 AM
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msharmony

Wed 06/10/20 12:35 PM


Why don't Black Lives Matter focus on 'black-on-black' crime



Because there is already a system that does that.