I don't believe I have ever know anyone... that can do this in my or their whole life ...


one can say we are not perfect ... which I believe true ... and anyone that says they are ... are not being true to them selves ...

I always believe that god is love and is very forgiving ... and how others of differnt faiths can be forgiving ... I find this very hard in these times ...
I know if u do not forgive ...your only hurting yourself and u can not move forward ... but righteousness ...the quality of being morally right or justifiable... does not always work with some ... they believe they are ...but they only hurt others ... seems like they are blind sided and can not know what the truth is ... and speak of god as a tool to hurt others ... becouse if god is god he loves everyone ... and will always forgive if you ask and live your life through him ... there would not be any deception ... to try an prove to others that are not willing to have faith in their lives or see it differently.... you have to have love for all... which a lot of people can't do ... so how are they doing gods work through them ... their not ... it is all being done for their own needs an selfishness and greed ... I hear of these groups ...like their the only people on this earth that matter ... I see them as hate groups becouse that is what they are lairs cheats an hate with deceptions and are very selfish ... and certainly not doing work for our father as they say ... there work is to divide... an join their hate group ... an then think all is well...

..........or they may just be very deluded

i am not who you think i am

you are who you think i am

money the gun ,politics the trigger , religion the bullet

these days if you fit into that

What I see here is a confusion between individual life philosophy and religion.

Individual life philosophy is based on personal beliefs and wisdom.
Religion is the unification of belief in a society.

Personal beliefs are subject to changes according to the individual.
Religious belief systems are locked in by their doctrine.

Religions are an attempt at social unification.
Their goal is conformity to their doctrine.
Religion abhors individualism.
Individualism breaks the unity of the religious society.
It operates outside doctrine.
Few religious doctrines proclaim unconditional love.
Adherence to doctrine discipline is expected in religions.

People are individuals and unique.
Personal goals may include social unity but are not dependent on it.
Personal choice determines an individual's unity with society.
People adopt their own code of ethics (doctrine) to deal with life and it is usually open for revision.
A person can claim unconditional love and mean it.
Personal discipline changes with experience and wisdom during life.

The thing which most fail to understand is the fact all societies, including religious societies, are made up from individual people. People who have different ideas and degrees of doctrine and discipline. Some people choose to have a lax discipline towards their religious doctrine. Others hold doctrine to a sharp discipline (fanatical). Still others have their own interpretation of the doctrine of their religion.

In the past, people were united in religious belief because they needed the unification religious doctrine established.
As our society grows, technology and communication allows people to find their own guidance thru experience.
Many people no longer look to be told what to believe or how to act.
This is terrible for religions. It breaks religious unity and harmony.

Many realize belief in their God doesn't require a religious doctrine.
People adopt disciplines from multiple religions as those disciplines fit their life experiences. They are also free to create their own disciplines as the need arises. When this happens it threatens established religious societies. Religious fanaticism then attempts to punish the masses to attempt reunification.

Many people do the 'wrong' thing and believe it's the right thing to do.

Many people act from anger and try to change and better the world from that and believe it's the right way.

Most people do not understand the power of love and most haven't really ever experienced real love.

Most people still have to many personal issues to work out. Many have their heart in the right place for sure, they absolutely mean well and really want to correct the wrong doings. But they do not understand (yet) this cannot be done from anger, hate, hurt, violence.

But... if YOU can see the other way and where they're going wrong, YOU will have to accept all of the above and hold them in love. Because that is ALL we can do and ALL we should do.
We have to show and lead by example, NOT by fighting them. That won't work and will only activate and aggravate them more.

And doing that is very difficult, especially when it comes to loved ones. I am in this situation with my daughter who is in fighting and resisting mode, ready to go out and protest and whatever.
She means well, she feels the right thing. It is just that she hasn't grasped the right way to sort it.
And I get it. It IS infuriating. Trying to sort a wildfire with calm and peace and love feels like doing nothing and as if it's not enough.
And maybe for some situations other things are required, but I doubt it.

Also, God/Divine/Source doesn't forgive. There's no need as it/he/she never judged to begin with.
Source ALWAYS always always loves us!
Mistake nr 1 of religious people to think this is not the case and they have to deserve Source's love and suffer and work hard for his forgiveness. That's only a program installed by church a.k.a. people. Not God.
Source/God/Divine ALWAYS loves us no matter what.

A HEALTHY MIND DOES NOT SPEAK ILL OF OTHERS.


Very true because of the following reasons:

1)We get what we give (Newton's 3rd law)

2)Healthy mind has enough time to discriminate what is right and what is wrong.

3)Healthy mind is more empathetic, can understand other's illness and can be compassionate. ( Its a natural process).

4)Because my mind is healthy, why not speak good of others? (Lets try !).