This is what happens, with too many
space vegans farting.

Now Venus is polluted with greenhouse gases.

Venusian Pollution

Somebody took a large dump on venus too....
Well wha' do ya know
I bet it's those peaky Republicans prepping
I wonder if the Venus version of mingle2 has made the same discovery of earth, and are right now making threads about it

Yes, I believe they are but their scientists have come to the conclusion that the life on Earth is full of Poo. We are known on Venus as "The Pooful Bunch".

Venus is hot enough on the surface to melt lead !!! Don’t think life would thrive in the extreme heat

You know I think its perfectly possible for life to be there and I'll tell you why. Even here on earth in all the extreme environments we have, there is life everywhere. From the actic where it stays below zero all the time, to hot water geothermal vents and volcanic geysers.

Life has been detected at the bottom of the ocean even where no carbon or much oxygen seems to be present. They use sulfer the same way land based animals like us use carbon. Life has been detected in water near boiling point and in the dead sea with super high salt levels. It seems life will grab whatever chemicals are available and make something out of it. This makes me think of the mad scientist

I could see life developing in super cold pools of ammonia or methane on the moons of jupiter or even planet uranus. All it takes is some chemical reactions to provide energy or even use sunlight or radiation to put different molecules together. Eventually you end up with something self replicating and voila ... you have life.

I read some of the moons of Jupiter have such gravity differences it creates heat inside them. The constant flexing makes the moon unstable but generates heat. Anaerobic life exists on this planet. As a matter of fact, it was oxygen which killed off this planet's original life (The Great Oxygenation Event) and also caused iron to rust.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event
We oxygen breathers are the mutant life form resulting from the cyanobacteria producing the oxygen which caused the event.
We're finding out what we used to think we knew about the basic requirements for life are nothing compared to what we have discovered on this planet alone. Imagine what we will know when we actually start really looking at the other planets in our solar system. Imagine what we will know when we can finally look at other worlds around other stars.


Again, didn't read, just commented. The article and my thread explains the observation came from the upper atmosphere not the surface. The upper atmosphere is significantly cooler.

Yes anaerobic life was first to develop on earth and still exists in certain micro environments. They make spores which can survive oxygen and when they land in a low oxygen environment they start growing

It is very egotistical of us to believe that we are the only sentient life form in the whole universe, or universes. And that any life must be carbon and water based like we are.

Bovine flatulence led to global warming there long ago.

It might exist in ways we don't comprehend- yet.

Yup
Considering the fact we base the requirements for life on a single planet's example means we don't really know the requirements for life in the Universe.
We understand the requirement for life on this planet as far as we can study.
Since we have rather recently found life at black smokers, where no life should be, is evidence we do not even understand the requirements for life on this planet.

We can only try to understand life as we find it, observe it and test it.
Our observations is limited to our domain.
Out testing is limited to our ability.
What we don't know about the Universe greatly exceeds what we do know.

The same applies to intelligence.
We base the definition of intelligence on what we understand about it.
Human civilization is a mere 5-10,000 years old.
There may be intelligent civilizations in the Universe which exceed 100 million or more years. We don't know because we haven't encountered any, yet.
We may not even understand the definition of intelligence on our own planet.
We base the definition of intelligence on our own example.
We assume we are the most intelligent species on this planet but we don't KNOW because we don't understand every species on this planet.
Hell, plants might be more intelligent than humans.
Its all relevant to our own observational limits. Our own values. Our own time frame.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/353301690_No_evidence_of_phosphine_in_the_atmosphere_of_Venus_from_independent_analyses

July 2021
Nature Astronomy 5(7):631-635
DOI:10.1038/s41550-021-01422-z

No evidence of phosphine in the atmosphere of Venus from independent analyses
The detection of phosphine (PH3) in the atmosphere of Venus has
been recently reported on the basis of millimetre-wave radio obser-
vations1 and their reanalyses2,3. In this Matters Arising we perform
an independent reanalysis, identifying several issues in the inter-
pretation of the spectroscopic data.
We analysed the data as presented originally in ref. 1 and could not recover a PH 3 signature.

This folks, is how science works.
Even tho the initial scientific evidence indicated the presence of phosphine at Venus, additional testing and examination(in detail) found that 'discovery' was a false positive.

Science is not open to speculation. It often contradicts original findings.
Only when all review and testing align is it considered fact.
To assume a discovery is fact is not science. Science must 'prove it'.

Scientists have shouted about life for years. There's practically infinite potential for it. There's evidence on Pluto in the ice towards the poles from what we know. The problem is that it's one of those things that we simply don't know enough about to say we have any evidence for it really beyond what's already speculation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the speculation is completely farcical, it's just that we can't really have proof of anything until we see it ourselves.

True

Panspermia suggests the building blocks of life are abundant in the Universe.
I have to disagree with that. The building blocks of life are abundant in this SOLar system but may not be abundant in all star systems.

SOL (our Sun) is a 2nd or 3rd generation star. That means in this area of the galactic ring a star went supernova and saturated this area with heavier, complex elements. Our star grew from that 'dust'. The stuff which makes up life on this planet is nearly 5 billion years in the making. The earliest forms of life on this planet are 3.7 billion years old. That means it took 3.7 billion years for life on this planet to reach its current manifestation.

The SOLar system is composed of the same elements which compose the Earth. Everything from the Sun to the smallest particles in the Oort Cloud potentially harbor the elements needed for life.
The Earth just happens to reside in an orbit which provides a stable environment with properties conducive to harboring life. Venus and Mars is also near this 'Goldilocks' zone for life. Finding evidence for past life on Venus or Mars is not such a far fetched idea.

Europa and Enceladus (Jovian Moons), could potentially harbor life in sub-surface water but water doesn't automatically mean life exists.
Pluto and any planetary body or moon which is frozen may have evidence of life elements but being frozen, that life would not be able to evolve and grow to complex stages. Frozen means no movement. True absolute zero is the cessation of all movement. Heat is movement. Without a heat source life cannot grow.

But...If you break off a chunk of a frozen moon or planetoid and bring it back to Earth, life may start to grow. Panspermia suggests life on Earth was seeded during the great bombardment period. It is also believed most of our water was also seeded by bombardment.

Life on Earth is unique to Earth.
It evolved in Earth-like conditions.
Life on Mars would not evolve like life on Earth.
It would have evolved in Mars-like conditions.
Its highly unlikely life in the Universe will resemble life from Earth.
We will not find reptiles, insects, mammals, dinosaurs, plants or fungi which resembles those we know of from Earth.
There might be some very amazing versions of life on planets around different stars. Life which might 'look like' life as we know it but it will be different. Life which evolved within that star's environment, that planet's or moon's environment.

Our understanding of life is based on life as we know it on this planet.
Our basis for life is based on life as we know it on this planet.
Its possible (if we are not extinct), in 1,000 years we might be able to reach our closest star systems (not counting Sol). If we find a planet in the habitable zone of a star, there may be life but we might not recognize it right away.

Also consider, the Sun resides in the Orion Arm spur of the Milky Way. Its likely we reside in an area of the galaxy which is conducive to life. Perhaps the Milky Way has a habitable zone just like the Sun? Maybe the rest of the galaxy is either too hot or too cold for life?
Granted, the Orion Arm spur is huge and we will likely never be able to leave its influence. But if this is true, it might be common for other galaxies as well?

That announcer voice from Starship Troopers was just in my head saying....

Venus.
It's an ugly planet... a fart planet.