Many have heard about Jesus Christ, although he lived about 2000 years ago. However, few people know who Jesus really was. Some say he was just a good man. Others consider him one of the prophets. And some consider him to be God. But is it?

1. Where did Jesus come from?
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Before coming to earth, Jesus lived in heaven. He was an invisible spirit creature.

Jesus is the only begotten Son of Jehovah God, the very first creation of God, the only one who was created by God himself. Colossians 1:15 (New World Translation) says: "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation." And since Jesus is the firstborn, then he is also the most beloved. Father and Son have communicated with each other for billions of years, long before the creation of the earth. Jesus learned from his Father, adopted his views, thoughts, and developed in himself the same qualities that the Father possessed. Therefore, Jesus is very much like him.

Some people believe that God's firstborn is equal to his Creator. This is not true! After all, the Son was created, i.e. he had a beginning. And God has no beginning or end. And how can the Son be greater than the One who gave him life!

It turns out that Jesus is the Son of Jehovah God, his very first creation, a spiritual creature.

But, if Jesus was born in heaven as a spirit creature, how did he end up on earth in the form of a man? More on that later.
 

Jesus was a man, crusified in for arsen in the middle east.

Birth of Jesus in Quran
“And (mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God has chosen you, purified you, and chosen you above the women of the worlds.’ ‘O Mary, be devoutly obedient to your Lord and prostrate and bow down along those who bow down (in prayer).’ This is a part of the news of the unseen, which We reveal to you (O Muhammad). You were not with them when they cast lots with their pens to (decide) which of them should take care of Mary, nor were you with them when they disputed.” (Quran 3:42-44)
The Good news of a new-born child
“(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’ ‘He will speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the righteous.’ She said, ‘My Lord, how can I have a son when no man has touched me.’ He said, ‘So (it will be,) for God creates what He wants. When He decides something, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is. And He will teach him the Book and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel. And (will make him) a messenger to the Children of Israel (saying), ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, then breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by the permission of God. And I heal the blind and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by the permission of God. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Surely, there is a sign for you in that, if you are believers. And (I have come) confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before me, and to allow you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a proof from your Lord, so fear God and obey me. Indeed, God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. This is the straight path.” (Quran 3:45-51)
“And mention in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place. And she placed a screen to seclude herself from them. Then We sent to her Our angel (Gabriel), and he took the form of a well-created man before her. She said, “Indeed I seek refuge with the Most Merciful from you, if you do fear God.”[1] (The angel) said, ‘I am only the messenger of your Lord to give to you (the news of) a pure boy.’ She said, ‘How can I have a son, when no man has touched me (in marriage), and I am not a prostitute?’ He said, So your Lord said, ‘It is easy for Me. And We will make him a sign to people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter (already) decided.’”[2] (Quran 19:16-21)
The Immaculate Conception
“And she who guarded her chastity, so We breathed (a spirit) into her through Our angel, and We made her and her son (Jesus) a sign for the worlds.”[3] (Quran 21:91)
“Indeed, Jesus is like Adam in front of God. He created him from dust, then said to him, ‘Be,’ and he was.”[5] (Quran 3:59)
“And We made the son of Mary and his mother a sign, And We gave them refuge and rest on a high ground with flowing water.”[6] (Quran 23:50)
https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/621/story-of-jesus-and-mary-in-holy-quran-part-1/

2. How was God's Son born on earth?
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Jehovah God is our Creator. He knows how we are made. Therefore, it was not a problem for him to make sure that his Son was born on earth.

God performed a miracle and transferred the life of his Son from heaven to the womb of the Jewish girl Mary. She had no intimacy with a man and was a virgin. This shows that Jesus did not have an earthly father. The child was born perfect and had no sin. Mary named him Jesus.

Jesus was born in September (October) 2 BC.
Baptized by John the Baptist in 29 AD.

Jesus came to earth with a specific purpose: to tell people about God, about the approaching Kingdom of God, to give himself up as a sacrifice for the sins of people and to accept a painful death.

While living on earth, Jesus did many good deeds: he taught, healed and resurrected people.

Jesus died in March (April) 33 AD, on Friday, around 3 pm.

There is still controversy: did Jesus die on the cross or on the pillar?
 

3. Was Jesus Christ executed on the cross or on the stake?
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The pillar is the instrument of execution on which Christ died. Mark 15:24, 27 (New World Translation) says: "And they nailed him to the stake ..."; "Moreover, they put two robbers on stakes alongside him..."

In this type of execution, a person is attached to a pillar or pole. The Romans nailed the hands and feet of the condemned man to the stake, which they did with Jesus Christ.

Among Jews and Romans, execution on a stake was considered something humiliating and shameful, the fate of the damned. Galatians 3:13 (New World Translation) says: "Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written:" Accursed is every man hung upon a stake. "

Most Bible translations say that Christ was crucified, not executed on a stake. This translation is based on the widespread belief that the instrument of Jesus' execution was not just a stake or a pillar, but a cross made from 2 pieces of wood.

The Greek word stauros is taken to designate the instrument of Jesus' execution. This word means a vertical pole or pole.

The Bible, as well as the research of many scientists, unequivocally show: Jesus Christ was executed on a stake, not on the cross.

There is no reason not to believe these sources.
 

4. What happened to the physical body of Christ?
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There are physical and spiritual bodies.

Living in heaven, the Son of God had a spiritual body. 1 Cr 15:44 (New World Translation) - "If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one." Such a body is not perceived by the human senses, for example, it cannot be seen.

Spiritual persons - God, Christ, angels - have spiritual bodies endowed with glory.

1 John 4:12 (New World Translation) - "No one has seen God at any time." Man cannot see God and stay alive--
Ex 33:20 (New World Translation).

When the apostle Paul saw only the appearance of the risen Christ, he fell to the ground and was blinded by the bright light that illuminated him. And his vision returned to him only thanks to a miracle.

Likewise, the spiritual bodies of angels are clothed with glory and radiance - Luke 2: 9 (New World Translation). These spirit sons of God can look at the glory of the Almighty without harming their eyes.


Born on earth, Jesus Christ had a physical body that was visible and tangible.

Jesus was buried. But when his disciples came to the crypt, they did not find the body of the deceased there. Jesus rose spiritually (gained a spiritual body again), but what happened to his physical body?

Jehovah God removed the fleshly body of his Son, possibly by decomposing it into its component parts.

Maybe He did this so that people would not have a desire to defile the body of Christ or use it for something unworthy.
 

Good day. I want to chime in. Christ did NOT die on the cross.
He is NOT the firstborn.
He is NOT the first creation. Genesis 1:1 states: IN THE BEGINNING GOD CRAFTED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.
The bible has 2 doctrines of Christ in there. The book has been infiltrated
Satan deceives the whole world and if possible deceives very elect.
There are two doctrines:
Christ CRUCIFIED a.k.a. The image of the Beast which majority of you are serving and going to be cast into the Lake of fire.
You all that serves this demon is blaspheming the Laws of the TORAH.
THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE THE MOST HIGH.
ANY MAN WHO SACRIFICE TO ANY OTHER GOD BESIDES THE MOST HIGH HIMSELF SHALL BE UTTERLY DESTROYED.
THEN THERE'S JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH:
WHO ONLY CAME FOR THE LOST SHEEPS OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.
HE WAS A PROPHET. A MAN APPROVED BY GOD, WHO, THROUGH HIM, GOD DID ALL THE MIRACLES, MADE A LITTLE LOWER THEN THE ANGELS, WHO CAME TO FULFILL THE LAWS WHICH ARE STILL IN EFFECT, BY BRINGING ISRAEL BACK TO THOSE LAWS.
LETS DEBATE USING THE PRECEPTS.

And people. It is impossible to understand the book without going into the HEBREW (OLD TESTAMENT) FIRST.
JESUS FATHER NAME WAS JOSEPH. HE WAS FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. THERE WAS NO IMMACULATE CONCEPTION. YOU ALL TELLING ME THAT MARY IS A VIRGIN WHEN JESUS ALREADY HAS TWO BROTHERS?? C'MON!! THE BOOK HAS BEEN INFILTRATED. AND OHHHH!! IF YOU HAD READ THE OLD TESTAMENT, IT IS FORBIDDEN TO SHED INNOCENT BLOOD. THE MOST HIGH STATED THAT HE WILL NOT ACQUIT THE WICKED. NO MAN SHALL DELIVER OUT OF HIS HANDS. THE MOST HIGH DID NOT SEND A SAVIOUR. SORRY TO INFORM YOU ALL. BEFORE YOU TURN AWAY, ASK ME TO PROVE IT. I TELL YOU WHAT, IF ANYONE CAN FIND ANYWHERE, IN THE BIBLE, THAT HE SENT US A SON/SAVIOUR, I'LL
CASH APP. $350 DOLLARS NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
IN THAT VERY BOOK, THESE WORDS MUST STATES: (FOR EXAMPLE)
THUS SAITH THE LORD, I'M SENDING A SON/SAVIOUR
THIS SAITH THE LORD OF HOST, I'M SENDING A SON/SAVIOUR
I, EVEN I AM THE LORD. I'M SENDING A SON/SAVIOUR ETC
IF IT DOESN'T BEGINS WITH THOSE WORDS, IT'S A LIE.
I CAN WAIT. @ 10/21/20 00:03 HRS.

Whom did Christ came for?

Yes, Jesus did not die on the cross, he was executed on a stake - Matthew 27:35 (New World Translation).

The earth is not the first creation of God. The first creation is the spirit creatures, the angels and the first of them is the Word, as Jesus was called in heaven. Later, God together with Jesus created the universe and everything in it.

Joseph is Jesus' adoptive father, not his own.
After Jesus, Mary and Joseph had other children - at least 4 sons and daughters - Matthew 13: 55,56 (New World Translation).

Everyone knows that Jesus was executed on a stake in 33 AD, Nisan 14, Friday, around 3 pm on Calvary. You can read about this in all 4 gospels.

After 3 days, Nisan 16, Jesus is resurrected. You can read it there.

Iyar 25, on the Mount of Olives near Bethany, on the 40th day after the resurrection, Jesus ascended to heaven - Luke 24: 50-53 (New World Translation).

Where is Jesus now and what is he doing?

Please share who thinks.

The tomb of Jesus Christ in the rotunda of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem's Old City was, on 26 February 2017, without its iron cage for the first time since it was placed around the stone tomb by the British in 1947 to keep the Edicule from falling apart. Greek archaeologists have been working since June 2016 to restore the tomb, believed to be the place where Jesus Christ was buried and then resurrected from after his Crucifixion

The meaning of Son of God
Virgin Mary gave birth to Jesus as a human being, crucified, died, was buried, rose on the third day, and ascended to heaven.
Son of God is a dogmatic term, it does not mean in Christian beliefs that God gave birth to a son or that He took a wife. The Son of God is a spiritual (not carnal) term. Some theologians considered that the title refers to the divine nature of him, as he is the Son and the word of God the Eternal, and the second meaning, according to a number of other researchers, indicates that Jesus was born without the intervention of a human father, this means that he is directly attributed to God, and some theologians combined the two definitions.
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. John 3:18
In ancient times, the word son of God means the Messenger of God, or the strong, the command of God, as mentioned in the Old Testament, and the word father means teacher. So they call Jesus the Son of God:
Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.” Matthew 14:33
Ancient mythology contains many personalities considered as human or divine father. Among the figures are Hercules, son of the god Zeus, and Virgilius, son of Venus. Also, in the Greek and Roman cultures, the concepts of "son" or "daughter of God" were prevalent and well-known, like Perseus.

John 10:30-"I and my Father are one" Christ knows EXACTLY how those words will be taken, and He NEVER backs down an inch from that very meaning. They are one.
Revelation 20:6-"Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years." Priests of TWO, reign with ONE.
Revelation 22:3-" No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be within the city, and His servants will worship Him." Again, TWO thrones, ONE God. Christ is no creation; we can no more comprehend the essence of God, than we can the power or age of Him. People are using terms that only matter in this reality; this is not the reality of God, this is a closed system where He placed laws that we can understand. Where was God before Genesis 1? Was there space, or time? Is it possible to visit every creation when all is said and done? It is possible, with our understanding of time and space, that God could spend a Billion years dealing with a creation before starting a new one, and if we asked to spend 10 seconds to see each of them, we would never be seen again. There would be no first creation, there would always be another one. We can no more comprehend God and Christ, than we can no beginning of anything. A creation with free will can always turn on Him, Christ being part of Him would be turning on Himself. Sure people can think as they wish, but I will stick with He and the Father are one.

Mary in the Bible
Mary became pregnant through the Holy Spirit, the active power of God. (Matthew 1:18)
Inspired by God, Mary conceived Jesus : Now all this has happened that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall give birth to a son. They shall call his name Immanuel,” which is, being interpreted, “God with us.” Matthew 1: 22, 23.
God with us doesn’t = Son of God
Scientifically, virgin birth is possible;
Parthenogenesis or virgin birth is a form of asexual reproduction where an egg develops into a complete individual without being fertilized. Some animals are fully asexual and do not need a male to give birth: for instance, the heavy-bodied snake - boa constrictor-, monitor lizard and Komodo dragon - are capable of becoming pregnant without male fertilization, by parthenogenesis.

sleekviper said:


sleekviper:

What point are you trying to make? You quoted several verses of scripture but did not explain the significance of what you understand those scriptural passages to mean.


NeutralZone

What is the meaning of you and your father are ONE?
I know you are human being or men.
But this isn’t the case with the LORD and any prophet.

When Jesus ascended to heaven, he appeared before his Father, Jehovah God - 1 Peter 3:22 (New World Translation).
God appointed His Son to be King and High Priest. But Jesus did not immediately dull him to fulfill his duties. He had to wait a while. While waiting for the promise, Jesus dealt with important problems.

Jesus' waiting time ended in 1914 and he became the ruler of the Kingdom of God - Rev 11:15 (New World Translation).

At the beginning of his reign, Jesus threw his enemies into the borders of the earth - Rev 12: 7-12 (New World Translation).

Then Christ freed on earth the remnant of his anointed brothers from the captivity of "Babylon the Great" - Rev 18: 2 (New World Translation).

Today Jesus is leading the worldwide work of preaching the good news. He also gathers the remaining spiritual brothers and millions of "other sheep".
Jesus is the head of the Christian congregation.

The savior of all who accept Him for He is the literal Word of YHWH who is and was and always will be. The Alfa and the omega the beginning and the end. The living Word from genesis to revelation and every Word written from the tablets to Pentecost when Yahuah promised to etch His living Word on our hearts. Seek Him with all your heart and that which is hidden will be revealed unto you. Only these can know who Yeshua is where others can only know of Him.

Mary in Quran
The prophet Zakariah (Zachariah) - the father of prophet Yahya (John the Baptist) - was chosen as the guardian of Mary. Zakariah gave her a separate room in the temple where she worships God. Whenever Zakariah would visit the room, he would find her with fresh fruits and food, some of the fruits being out of season. He asked her, "O Mary! Who (sends) this to you?" She said: From God.
While praying, she was visited by an angel in the form of a man. Confused, she put up a screen between herself and the angel, and cried, “I seek refuge in the Merciful (God) from you, (come not near) if you fear Him.”
The angel assured her: “, I am only a messenger from Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a holy son.” "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous." The angel said, "O Mary, indeed God gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to God.
She said, "My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?" [The angel] said, "Such is God; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is.
The angel said: And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of God. And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of God. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.