Topic: JESUS CHRIST--WHO IS HE?
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Elena

Fri 02/26/21 04:14 PM

I understand you.
But each of us remains unconvinced. smile2
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Toodygirl5

Sat 02/27/21 02:26 PM


Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus was born at Passover.
But Jesus really died on Easter - in March-April 33 A.D. e.




I agree!
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Toodygirl5

Sat 02/27/21 02:31 PM


Keep your heart with all diligence, For out of it
spring the issues of life.

Proverbs 4:23



Jesus takes residence in our heart.
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Toodygirl5

Sat 02/27/21 02:32 PM

nkjv

God made the Universe. Nothing was made
Without Him.

Genesis
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Sat 02/27/21 02:34 PM
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tdion

Sat 02/27/21 03:08 PM

Then you don't believe Luke, hahaha. I am just quoting wat he had to say about the birth of Christ.
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Elena

Sat 03/06/21 02:33 PM

The controversy over the timing of Jesus' birth continues. Even specialists cannot solve them.

Who knows:

1. When did Jesus Christ become High Priest?
2. When was the new agreement approved and
when was it introduced?

Please tell me who knows.
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Toodygirl5

Sun 03/07/21 11:35 AM


The controversy over the timing of Jesus' birth continues. Even specialists cannot solve them.

Who knows:

1. When did Jesus Christ become High Priest?
2. When was the new agreement approved and
when was it introduced?

Please tell me who knows.


Hebrews 4:14-16

great high priest
who has passed through the heavens,
Jesus the Son of God

Hebrews 1:3

He sat down at the right hand of the
Majesty on high.
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Toodygirl5

Sun 03/07/21 11:40 AM

Joseph Caiaphas was high priest in Jerusalem,
who sent Jesus to pilot for His execution.
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tdion

Mon 03/08/21 04:56 AM

There is NO controversy but just misunderstanding about the birth of Christ. The bible clearly states the period of Christ birth. Who are we to deny that?
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Elena

Sat 03/13/21 03:27 PM

1.
Jesus became High Priest when he was baptized in 29 C.E. e.
Because by his baptism, Jesus showed that he was ready to sacrifice his own life on a symbolic altar representing the will of God.
Read Gal. 1: 4; Heb. 10: 5-10


2.
Jehovah, on the one hand, participates in the new agreement, and on the other, “the Israel of God,” spirit-born Christians who are in unity with Christ and constitute his body, or assembly. --Heb 8:10; 12: 22-24; Ch 6:15 , 16; 3: 26-28; Rm 2:28, 29).

Jesus Christ is the mediator in this agreement.

The new agreement was approved and put into effect at the same time.
Because

when Jesus ascended to heaven and gave God the value of a perfect human life as a ransom for us, the process of approving a new agreement began. The same process brought this agreement into effect.



To tdion:

Please show me a specific verse that says Jesus was born on Passover. I don't see it in the Bible.
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tdion

Mon 03/15/21 02:16 PM


1.
Jesus became High Priest when he was baptized in 29 C.E. e.
Because by his baptism, Jesus showed that he was ready to sacrifice his own life on a symbolic altar representing the will of God.
Read Gal. 1: 4; Heb. 10: 5-10


2.
Jehovah, on the one hand, participates in the new agreement, and on the other, “the Israel of God,” spirit-born Christians who are in unity with Christ and constitute his body, or assembly. --Heb 8:10; 12: 22-24; Ch 6:15 , 16; 3: 26-28; Rm 2:28, 29).

Jesus Christ is the mediator in this agreement.

The new agreement was approved and put into effect at the same time.
Because

when Jesus ascended to heaven and gave God the value of a perfect human life as a ransom for us, the process of approving a new agreement began. The same process brought this agreement into effect.



To tdion:

Please show me a specific verse that says Jesus was born on Passover. I don't see it in the Bible.



It is right here: Luke [2:41-42] Now his parents went to Jerusalem every Year at the feast of the passover. And when he was twelve years old (during the passover), they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast (Passover).
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Elena

Tue 03/16/21 03:02 AM


Thanks.

When Was Jesus Born?

The Bible’s answer:

The Bible does not give a specific date for the birth of Jesus Christ, as these reference works show:

“The true birth date of Christ is unknown.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia.

“The exact date of Christ’s birth is not known.”—Encyclopedia of Early Christianity.

While the Bible does not directly answer the question, ‘When was Jesus born?’ it does describe two events surrounding his birth that lead many to conclude that he was not born on December 25, or Easter.

Not in winter:

The registration. Shortly before Jesus was born, Caesar Augustus issued a decree ordering “all the inhabited earth to be registered.” Everyone had to register in “his own city,” which might have required a journey of a week or more. (Luke 2:1-3) That order—probably made to support taxation and military conscription—would have been unpopular at any time of year, but it is unlikely that Augustus would have provoked his subjects further by forcing many of them to make long trips during the cold winter.

The sheep. Shepherds were “living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks.” (Luke 2:8) The book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus notes that flocks lived in the open air from “the week before the Passover [late March]” through mid-November. It then adds: “They passed the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas, in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields.”

In early fall:

We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Jesus was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C.E.—Luke 3:23.

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tdion

Sun 03/21/21 05:59 PM

You don't understand the bible. It clearly states that Chris was born in the Passover. Christ was a leader and this would be the best time for him to be born.
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Elena

Mon 03/29/21 10:39 AM

You say so often that I don't understand something ...

But these are just words.

You cannot point to a specific passage in Scripture that says Jesus was born at Passover.

The Bible does not give the date of birth of Jesus because it is not so important. More important is what Jesus did for you and me - he gave his perfect life so that people have hope for a better life. This is important !!! And when Jesus was born is not a matter of principle.
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Elena

Mon 03/29/21 12:50 PM

Dinner of the Lord.


On March 27 this year, after sunset, millions of people
around the world gathered for a special meeting - the Memorial of the death of Jesus Christ.



The Supper is also called the Lord's Supper. This is the only event that the Bible says Christians should celebrate.



The Lord's Supper was presented by Jesus himself. And you can read about it in all the Gospels.



On the eve of his death, Jesus celebrated Easter for the last time, after which he introduced the Lord's Supper.
Those. and Passover and the Lord's Supper were celebrated on Nisan 14, after sunset.



According to Luke and Paul, Jesus, introducing the Lord's Supper, said: “Keep doing this in remembrance of me” (Luke 22:19; 1 Corinthians 11:24).



Passover, which was celebrated in memory of how Jehovah freed Israel from Egyptian slavery in 1513 BC, was celebrated only once a year, on Nisan 14. Therefore, the Lord's Supper should also be celebrated once a year, Nisan 14.
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Unknow

Wed 03/31/21 09:44 PM


You say so often that I don't understand something ...

But these are just words.

You cannot point to a specific passage in Scripture that says Jesus was born at Passover.

The Bible does not give the date of birth of Jesus because it is not so important. More important is what Jesus did for you and me - he gave his perfect life so that people have hope for a better life. This is important !!! And when Jesus was born is not a matter of principle.


We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. ( John 19:14-16) Jesus was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C.E.— Luke 3:23. Why is Christmas on December 25?

that is and easy one.
does not matter anyways when he was born and ((nick picky)) things like that only confuses people. i rather hear he died for peoples sins
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tdion

Fri 04/02/21 04:36 AM

Matthew tells us in 1:21 who Jesus was. Reading matthew we come to understand that Christ came to save HIS people, and not the whole world! That is who Christ was and still is.
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tdion

Fri 04/02/21 04:44 AM

To: Elena

Should I feel myself a specialist, hahaha? Jesus was High Priest in the Order of Melzechidek in the old testament when he met Abraham. Please, tell me what do you mean by New Agreement?
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Elena

Sat 04/03/21 08:51 PM


To tdion---

New Covenant.

Jehovah foretold the new covenant by the prophet Jeremiah in the 7 century B.C.E., stating that it would not be like the Law covenant, which Israel broke. (Jer 31:31-34)

On the night before his death, Nisan 14, 33 C.E., when he established the celebration of the Lord's Evening Meal, Jesus Christ announced the new covenant, to be validated by his sacrifice.(Lu 22:20)

The parties to the new covenant are Jehovah, on one side , and "the Israel of God", the spirit-begotten ones in union with Christ, making up his congregation or body, on the other side.(Heb 8:10; 12:22-24; Ga 6:15,16; 3:26-28; Ro 2:28,29)
The new covenant is made operative by the shed blood of Jesus Christ, the value of which was presented to Jehovah after Jesus' ascension to heaven.(Mt 26:28)

When one is selected by God for the heavenly calling (Heb 3:1), God brings that one into His covenant over Christ's sacrifice.(Ps 50:5; Heb 9:14,15,26)

Jesus Christ is the Mediator of the new covenant (Heb 8:6; 9:15) and is the primary Seed of Abraham.(Ga 3:16). By means of Jesus' mediatorship of the new covenant, he assists those in the covenant to become part of the real seed of Abraham (Heb 2:16; Ga 3:29) through forgiveness of their sins.
Jehovah declares them righteous (Ro 5:1, 2; 8:33; Heb 10:16,17).

These spirit-begotten, anointed brothers of Christ become underpriests of the High Priest, "a royal priesthood" (1 Pe 2:9; Re 5:9,10; 20:6). These do a priestly work, a "public service" (Php 2:17), and are called "ministers of a new covenant".(2 Co 3:6).

These called ones must follow Christ's steps closely, faithfully, until laying down their lives in death; Jehovah will then make them a kingdom of priests, making them sharers in divine nature, and will reward them which immortality and incorruption as joint heirs in the heavens with Crist. (1 Pe 2:21; Ro 6:3,4; 1 Co 15:53; 1 Pe 1:4; 2 Pe 1:4).

The purpose of the covenant is to take out a people for Jehovah's name as a part of Abraham's "seed" (Ac 15:14). They become the "bride" of Christ, and are the body of persons whom Christ takes into a covenant for the Kingdom, to rule with Him. (Joh 3:29; 2 Co 11:2; Re 21:9; Lu 22:29; Re 1:4-6; 5:9,10; 20:6).

The purpose of the new covenant requires that it continue in operation until all of the "Israel of God" are resurrected to immortality in the heavens. The benefits from that accomplished purpose will be everlasting, and for this reason it can be called "an everlasting covenant" (Heb 13:20).
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Elena

Sun 04/04/21 01:21 AM

The new covenant refers to those whom God has chosen and called. These are the apostles of Jesus and other Christians anointed with the holy spirit. These are the same 144,000 anointed ones who will rule with Jesus in heaven.



But since these people are descendants of the imperfect Adam, they are sinful and are not sons of God by birth. Therefore, God adopts them on the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus and they become sons and heirs together with Jesus, the only begotten Son of God (Galatians 4: 1-7; Romans 8: 14-17).



Those the new covenant is the agreement of God's adoption of those whom he has chosen. Jesus in this covenant is the mediator between his Father and his apostles.

After being adopted by God, Jesus makes a covenant with his followers.

Jesus' Covenant With His Followers.


On the night of Nisan 14, 33 C.E., Jesus made this covenant with his faithful apostles. To the 11 apostles he promised that they would sit on thrones (Lu 22:28-30; 2 Ti 2:12).

Later, he showed that this promise extended to all spirit-begotten 'conquerors' (Re 3:21; Re 1:4-6; 5:9, 10; 20:6).

On the day of Pentecost he inaugurated this covenant toward them by the anointing with holy spirit of those disciples present in the upper room in Jerusalem (Ac 2:1-4,33).Those who would stick with him through trials, dying his kind of death (Php 3:10; Col 1:24), would reign with him, sharing his Kingdom rule. The covenant remains operative between Jesus Christ and these associate kings forever (Re 22:5)