Hello There
The stats here are says that the gen-shots are not doing anything good...
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/worrying-me-quite-bit-mrna-vaccine-inventor-shares-viral-thread-showing-covid-surge-most
To sum up the article, most spread in the most "vaccinated" countrys...
hello again Calle ... many countries are at different stages with their vaccination rollouts . Only a few countries are close to having the required percent of population vaccinated to ensure herd immunity . Until that happens communities are still vulnerable . There are questions still to be answered on how effective the vaccines are against the variants causing concern .. in particular the delta variant . That is still being addressed .
It needs to be known that vaccination isn't the on;y way to achieve herd immunity. People who have been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 have immunity without receiving one of the vaccines.
From a John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health article:
If SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, is like other coronaviruses that currently infect humans, we can expect that people who get infected will be immune for months to years. For example, population-based studies in places like Denmark have shown that an initial infection by SARS-CoV-2 is protective against repeat infection for more than six months.
As with any other infection, there are two ways to achieve herd immunity: A large proportion of the population either gets infected or gets a protective vaccine.
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I've been vaccinated so I'm far from being someone who is anti science/vaccination. Before getting the vaccine I did my OWN research by reading and listening to information (or in some cases what was presented as information) from various sources......including people who had been vaccinated. It's the reason I decided to receive the Pfizer vaccine rather than the Moderna (knew people who had bad side effects from the Moderna vaccine) or the J and J vaccine. People need to make inform decisions to make the correct choices for themselves. That means NOT doing what "experts" from the CDC, FDA or the WHO without question, and especially not bloviating media personalities or politicians who ACT like they know better than you what is best for your situation. Many of these experts declared unequivocally there was NO WAY that the COVID-19 originated in the Wuhan Lab when the pandemic started.....who are now saying it seems to be the most likely source.
Be an informed consumer of products including medicines......and the garbage some of the media and politicians try to feed you .
Hi John

. I have mentioned this in a previous post .. yes people who have had a natural covid infection will have some degree of immunity but it is variable and depends on severity and strain of infection. Those with a mild illness likely only have limited immune protection and only against the stain they were exposed to . In contrast , the mRNA vaccine trains the immune system to respond to the presence of the covid spike protein ( which all coronavirus strains have) therefore will likely provide protection against a variety of covid strains . ... that is of course dependent on what changes the mutation has caused . A couple of the variants have shown they have changes which help them to avoid antibody protection , even so there is still some degree of immune protection offered by the mRNA vaccine .
If you consider a flu virus ...you can have the flu and will have some immunity against that strain only .. covid is likely to behave in a similar manner . ( seasonal vaccines or additional boosters may well be necessary ) . Time will tell .
Immunity against a natural viral infection in many cases is limited and certainly not lifelong . Some viruses have the ability to lay dormant in the body for long periods and reappear when immunity is lowered or resistance is weakened ) . Insufficient time Has passed yet to determine if covid has that potential . Some of the systemic damage covid causes can certainly result in long term complications .
Those who have had a natural covid infection are still encouraged to be vaccinated as this will give them a higher level of immune protection .
They are still learning about the efficacy of natural immunity vs vaccines.
While it's being recommended by many healthcare professionals that people who have recovered from Covid-19 still get vaccinated it's really not known if it gives a "higher level of immune protection".
From the "At The Forefront U Chicago Medicine:
"With some viruses, such as chicken pox, being infected with the virus itself grants stronger immune protection than the chicken pox vaccine; however, in those cases, you then have to deal with all the complications of having the virus. When it comes to COVID-19, it’s really hard to know whether being exposed to the virus is more protective of future infection than the vaccine, simply because we don’t know the SARS-CoV-2 virus well enough yet."
They recommend getting the vaccine after being infected they ALSO admit it's UNKNOWN if "being exposed to the virus is more protective of future infection than the vaccine".
Fortunately I never got Covid-19 but if I had I might have chosen to get my antibodies levels checked before getting vaccinated. Luckily I didn't have to make that decision and I decided to get vaccinated based on my OWN research.
Edited by
Smartazzjohn
on Sun 07/25/21 01:30 PM