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mysticalview21

Wed 02/17/21 02:16 PM

What kind of person says this ... do not give any $ to these people with a mind set like that ... what I have heard ... which i never new Texas is like lets say two side like a border ... the wind mills where bought in a cheap way not good for winter thats why all the others in cold state are running fine ... an most of the issues came with electric coal and gas ... becouse ice that takes power lines down some have frozen water becouse of the cold and their pipes might burst an your electric can go out from this ... even gas freezes up... I was shocked this yr ... this one side of Texas had a chance to get things up to date... but failed in their job becouse they for got about the other storm they had in 2011... not going to happen again ... now I believe the government should start to send in the guards to help get water blankets food medical help bring in buses to take to places these people can stay warm and get the food shelter they need ... I am just happy we now we have a president that cares :>) tcbesafe... and the animal shelters... where they hopefully can get later ...


https://youtu.be/-lqUDI2TYCM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Wed 02/17/21 02:19 PM
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Rock

Wed 02/17/21 02:28 PM

The windmills were a mistake, foisted on us
by environmentalists.

Natural gas, was banned in new home construction
in many of our communities. Again, at the
behest of environmentalists.

Texas national guard has already been activated,
to help those in dire need.
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Toodygirl5

Wed 02/17/21 05:19 PM

It's terrible I have relatives in Texas.
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Bart

Thu 02/18/21 06:34 AM

In reality Texas’s renewable energy ( wind and solar) is about 25% of the states energy source. Fossil fuel( oil, nat. gas and coal) makes up the other 75%. With the freezing temps. for a week or so. It has frozen the windmills . If a windmill can’t rotate its useless . With non-working windmills , the power being generated from those sources decreases. They are down about 90% of the power they put out on a good day. On the other hand the energy created from the fossil fuels are being increased about 80% of their usual power. Now is not the time to dump our way of heating our homes and commuting back and forth just because some scientists says we have to for the sake of our planet. For every one of those scientists I can show you one that will dispute that. We should be using all available energy sources at our disposal.
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Thu 02/18/21 11:24 AM


In reality Texas’s renewable energy ( wind and solar) is about 25% of the states energy source. Fossil fuel( oil, nat. gas and coal) makes up the other 75%. With the freezing temps. for a week or so. It has frozen the windmills . If a windmill can’t rotate its useless . With non-working windmills , the power being generated from those sources decreases. They are down about 90% of the power they put out on a good day. On the other hand the energy created from the fossil fuels are being increased about 80% of their usual power. Now is not the time to dump our way of heating our homes and commuting back and forth just because some scientists says we have to for the sake of our planet. For every one of those scientists I can show you one that will dispute that. We should be using all available energy sources at our disposal.

We cannot keep draining the Earth for fossil fuels. We HAVE to find other ways to sustain our way of life if we want to have a planet that's liveable for humans.

New ways may have initial start-up problems, doesn't mean they have to be discarded. They need to be fine-tuned.
And from what I gathered, the situation in Texas is rare and the houses aren't built to take cold either. So this is an exceptional situation.
Maybe the turbines in colder areas do work, but maybe these cannot take heat. I don't know, I'm not an expert. All I DO know is that we MUST find other ways. We have no choice.

Also, the news said they're rerouting gas, but they cannot get enough of that out of the ground as all the wells are frozen up.
So this is not just wind turbines being chit. Natural gas -the backup- also doesn't work right now.

I do sincerely hope the US government does something, like act swiftly for a change, to help all the people that are in trouble now.
:heart: :heart: :heart:
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Bart

Thu 02/18/21 11:46 AM



In reality Texas’s renewable energy ( wind and solar) is about 25% of the states energy source. Fossil fuel( oil, nat. gas and coal) makes up the other 75%. With the freezing temps. for a week or so. It has frozen the windmills . If a windmill can’t rotate its useless . With non-working windmills , the power being generated from those sources decreases. They are down about 90% of the power they put out on a good day. On the other hand the energy created from the fossil fuels are being increased about 80% of their usual power. Now is not the time to dump our way of heating our homes and commuting back and forth just because some scientists says we have to for the sake of our planet. For every one of those scientists I can show you one that will dispute that. We should be using all available energy sources at our disposal.

We cannot keep draining the Earth for fossil fuels. We HAVE to find other ways to sustain our way of life if we want to have a planet that's liveable for humans.

New ways may have initial start-up problems, doesn't mean they have to be discarded. They need to be fine-tuned.
And from what I gathered, the situation in Texas is rare and the houses aren't built to take cold either. So this is an exceptional situation.
Maybe the turbines in colder areas do work, but maybe these cannot take heat. I don't know, I'm not an expert. All I DO know is that we MUST find other ways. We have no choice.

Also, the news said they're rerouting gas, but they cannot get enough of that out of the ground as all the wells are frozen up.
So this is not just wind turbines being chit. Natural gas -the backup- also doesn't work right now.

I do sincerely hope the US government does something, like act swiftly for a change, to help all the people that are in trouble now.
:heart: :heart: :heart:

I agree that we should invest in renewables which we do now. But we shouldn’t scrap the way that is most reliable now which is gas and oil. I said in above post that we should be using ALL available sources of energy.
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dust4fun

Thu 02/18/21 05:11 PM


What kind of person says this ... do not give any $ to these people with a mind set like that ... what I have heard ... which i never new Texas is like lets say two side like a border ... the wind mills where bought in a cheap way not good for winter thats why all the others in cold state are running fine ... an most of the issues came with electric coal and gas ... becouse ice that takes power lines down some have frozen water becouse of the cold and their pipes might burst an your electric can go out from this ... even gas freezes up... I was shocked this yr ... this one side of Texas had a chance to get things up to date... but failed in their job becouse they for got about the other storm they had in 2011... not going to happen again ... now I believe the government should start to send in the guards to help get water blankets food medical help bring in buses to take to places these people can stay warm and get the food shelter they need ... I am just happy we now we have a president that cares :>) tcbesafe... and the animal shelters... where they hopefully can get later ...


https://youtu.be/-lqUDI2TYCM

Imagine in a couple years when we all have to drive electric cars and the grid fails. Or we can only go 150 miles from home then have to turn around and go back or stop for a couple hours to charge our cars. The windmills go ice on them and if you run them out of balance it will destroy them in no time. Also the lubricants they use are not designed for the cold. Solar power was down from the lack of sun and the snow and ice covering them. And Texas has its own grid that is not tied into other areas so they can't just borrow power from other states. Normally its ice storms in the south that take power lines down causing the outage. However this time it was mostly a problem of people using much more electricity to heat their houses well the power available was cut by a large amount. Natural gas freezes at -300°f so yes it can freeze but there were a number of reasons why I did. Where I live it was -30°f on Monday morning and I have never heard of natural gas freezing being an issue of delivery if you do things the right way. Last year we had a cold snap and they did run short on distributing natural gas that caused some issues, but that was a supply issue. The water in any type of fuel can freeze and that is why the put additives in them either when they make them or as an aftermarket. Diesel fuel will gel around 0°f but most people prepare for that. What happened in Texas had to do with not having the right additives and the fact the gas was under presure. If you have ever taken a propane connection apart while there was still pressure you probably felt the cold or seen the frost on it. The houses are not insulated well but will hold enough heat for a period of time to keep damage from happening. The Mall of America doesn't even have a heater in it, the lights,equipment, people, and sky lights is more then enough to keep the huge mall heated. They do have a massive air conditioning system however. One of the biggest issues is people who try to heat their houses with fuel heaters that are not vented properly to the outside, or run generators that emit carbon dioxide into their houses. It can be miserable to go thru but it will warm soon enough and people will be able to go back to their normal lives. We've only been keeping weather records for about 150 years so can't really blame this one on global warming as similar things have happened in the past.