Topic: Bondage to decay/Children of God
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Unknow

Sat 08/07/21 08:08 AM

Many believe they will "go to heaven" -but biblical scripture actually says we are to inherit the Earth first -then the entire creation -the entire universe -"the heavens".
It also says we will be given bodies similar to that which allows for God's omnipotence and extreme creative power -which also means not being bound to the earth -or subject to death.
Just as our bondage to decay will no longer be an issue, so we are to use our creative power to bring wonderful creativity, order and permanence to a universe otherwise subject to extreme natural forces.
We will literally have power over cosmic forces -built into our new bodies.
It may seem impossible, but is a matter of ability to interface -which is what a body IS.
Being less subject and interfacing differently -on a different level -from a different position -could allow for a force which could conceivably counter even the otherwise-inevitable collapse of the universe (if that's really a thing).
Will is a force which may counteract the otherwise-inevitable -to a degree dependent on position, understanding and ability to interface.
God -quite naturally -as the original -holds the top position -but he will bring us very near his own position and grant us knowledge and a powerful interface.

Why? Because it will be AWESOME!!!!!!!!! shocked

Rom 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

Isa 45:18For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Phil 3:21Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Edited by Unknow on Sat 08/07/21 08:13 AM
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shakes-beard

Sat 08/07/21 10:16 AM

It's all very fine and dandy everyone having a body that can subdue all things unto it, but I would be like flippin Highlander..:smile:

no disrespect Doofus.
Edited by shakes-beard on Sat 08/07/21 10:17 AM
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Slim gym

Sat 08/07/21 11:49 AM

On a dating site I would rather be concentrating on that one body, which I want besides me, especially on a cold winter's night !!!! Leave the rest to the thumpers and dreamers !!!
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cleve

Sat 08/07/21 11:59 AM

WAY OVER MY HEAD....I HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS.......rofl
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cleve

Sat 08/07/21 12:01 PM


WAY OVER MY HEAD....I HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS.......rofl


THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING.........
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Slim gym

Sat 08/07/21 12:03 PM



WAY OVER MY HEAD....I HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS.......rofl


THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING.........


I felt exactly the same . But did not want to be the only one .... not with the Bard looking down at me !!!
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cleve

Sun 08/08/21 04:13 AM



I HAVE ONE LAST THING TO SAY,,,,,I HAVE A DOCTOR OF DIVINITY

DEGREE...AND WILL NEVER SHARE MY VIEWS WHERE IT IS NOT

APPROPRIATE.........
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Unknow

Sun 08/08/21 08:09 AM

Religion chat is appropriate, I suppose.... not like anything can be hidden these days anyway -"where it is not appropriate" is meaningless if everything can be accessed in the first place. I'm also just paraphrasing the bible -which may -at least presently -be found in quite a few places. Folks might want to look into such things now -before there is a "famine of the word".

Isn´t it all just a question of combining the physical and spiritual worlds? We have our physical bodies of elementary matters and our spiritual soul of Light. When leaving the physical body, our individual souls returns to the collective and universal Light.


I prefer to get more specific.

Everything in existence is connected -there is nothing truly separate............................................................................................................................................... -any separation is by logic/creating some sort of border.


I don't believe we are made of different stuff in our physical body than we will be in a "spirit" body, but on a different level of complexity.
Some things are built from atoms, for example, but atoms are built from other things -and it should be possible for a life form to be essentially subatomic -built from more simple things.
We might see ourselves as simple in comparison with God -and in some ways that would be true.
However, our power is actually limited by the relative complexity of our basic building blocks -the fact that we are based on -and interface on -the atomic level.
We show that to be true by creating extensions of ourselves which can in turn interface on a subatomic level.
The difference would be having such capabilities built into our bodies/design.
Being based on -and interfacing on -the subatomic would give us greater power over the atomic -essentially changing it from within -or below or above -depending on which way you look at it.
Being based on -and interfacing on -the most simple level possible would afford the most power.
Most simple base would equate to "most high" in terms of ability, knowledge and access (omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence) .


The same stuff arranged differently -but allowing for access to different levels of complexity -and so reality.
Biblically, we are "a little lower than the angels".
We are presently "low" because our basic complexity level is "high".
It is our border -limit -keeping us bound to the Earth or a similar set of conditions, and limiting our ability to affect reality.
Edited by Unknow on Sun 08/08/21 08:15 AM
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Unknow

Sun 08/08/21 08:17 AM


It's all very fine and dandy everyone having a body that can subdue all things unto it, but I would be like flippin Highlander..:smile:

no disrespect Doofus.

That's why we are temporarily stuck on this rock hurling through space -until we can not mess things up.
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cleve

Sun 08/08/21 11:15 AM



It's all very fine and dandy everyone having a body that can subdue all things unto it, but I would be like flippin Highlander..:smile:

no disrespect Doofus.

That's why we are temporarily stuck on this rock hurling through space -until we can not mess things up.






I SEE THE GLASS AS HALF FULL.....
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tdion

Mon 08/16/21 07:13 AM

First, the Kingdom of heaven will be created by Christ and not His father, here on Earth. The Kingdom will not come through observation but by work. The work will be done by those who previously had a Kingdom and lost it. This Kingdom is not for everyone but only for the elects, who will rule the earth together with Christ.
It will be awesome but only for few.
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Slim gym

Mon 08/16/21 07:18 AM

Did I hear Bondage .... yippee , now I am all tongue tied ?????
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Unknow

Sat 08/21/21 06:12 AM

or is it hurtling through space?
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LUNG1954

Sun 08/22/21 11:21 PM

I believe good people will inherit the Earth when they follow Jesus and Mahdi at the Last Day.
The Bible foretells many signs that would culminate in the last days. Jesus indicated these signs would arise together as His return drew near (Matthew 24:33-34).
Before the appearance of the Messiah and the Imam Mahdi, signs will occur, including:
People are afraid of epidemics, earthquakes and hurricanes
An evil and murderous man is taking control of Iraq
A demonic man - Sufyani - is in control of Syria. His influence extends to Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon, and his forces enter Saudi Arabia.
A believing man - Khorasani - will lead Iran
A great battle will take place between the Sufyani army and the Khorasani army, and Iran will win
A man with pure soul will be killed in the Kaaba leads to the wrath of every good man.
The entry of a comet into Earth's orbit will change the astronomical nature on the Earth
The Jews in Palestine will control of the Al-Aqsa Mosque. But the resistance will deal strong blows to the Zionists in Israel, as the Quran says:
"And We warned the Children of Israel in the Scripture, “You will certainly cause corruption in the land twice, and you will become extremely arrogant.
When the first of the two warnings would come to pass, We would send against you some of Our servants of great might, who would ravage your homes. This would be a warning fulfilled.
Then ˹after your repentance˺ We would give you the upper hand over them and aid you with wealth and offspring, causing you to outnumber them.
If you act rightly, it is for your own good, but if you do wrong, it is to your own loss. “And when the second warning would come to pass, your enemies would ˹be left to˺ totally disgrace you and enter the Temple ˹of Jerusalem˺ as they entered it the first time, and utterly destroy whatever would fall into their hands."
Holy come
The Bible does not teach that the earth or the human race will come to an end. The Bible teaches that the world will be renovated by fire. This fire will destroy all that is evil and prepare the earth for the Kingdom of God.
The coming of Jesus will be in Jerusalem and the appearance of Imam Al-Mahdi in Mecca (in the Kaaba), then his companions control Mecca, and his statement is directed to all the peoples of the world in all languages, and God eclipses the earth with Sufyani army. Imam Mahdi goes to Jerusalem and prays with Jesus and they lead the world to achieve divine justice in the land after it was filled with injustice.