Topic: Prepping for the worst - more QR code
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Blondey111

Sat 11/20/21 02:04 PM



Make 1940 Great again...
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Wonder if still valid in Austria?

An Austrian are at it again... Not nice in Austrians stores first to trying implement forced vaccination from 1 February whish is not democratic to say the least.
See: https://youtu.be/WvT6ezWWCow?t=253

My thoughts and prays goes to the Austrians.

The logic is basically... The "protected" need to be protected against the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that did not protect the protected.

Sadly it is clear the vaccines even in places with high vaccination grade donยดt work. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/worlds-most-vaccinated-region-cancels-christmas-for-drastic-rise-in-covid-cases/

couldn't agree with you more, especially the part I made bold.
It's all senseless.
Like tonight... I went to get a take away for which I had to enter and walk through the pizzeria.
Then I was asked for the QR code AFTER I had paid (wankers) and I had to wait outside. They brought me my meal when it was done.
But... THey themselves walked in and out through the entire restaurant WITHOUT a facemask which if memory serves is not allowed? Yet I need to show some stupid code on a phone at the counter in the middle of the restaurant.
Would make more sense to ask at the entrance BEFORE people have ordered & paid, and to have the employees wear masks too, if they pretend to follow the useless rules.

It's an insane world, and I fear it will get worse before it gets better.

I'll check the links tomorrow.
totally agree ... they should have asked for your QR code before you entered the restaurant .perhaps it is just a glitch .. and they will rectify the process . Although I did read in the Netherlands that not all businesses are compliant or consistent with QR code use .
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SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž

Sat 11/20/21 02:15 PM


Hopefully you have been misinformed about needing QR codes for the supermarkets and that will not happen?
But I think stocking up on essentials is a good thing, especially if you happen to catch Covid. Because you would have to self isolate for weeks.

In New Zealand they have just started rolling out the QR code, which will be needed to go to concerts, etc. Summer is practically here now. I can get back to you if you want to know what our QR codes are used for?


Hi LadyWind!
They have indeed planned to go for all shops, basically all retail which includes supermarkets. It only needs to be passed by House of Representatives which usually is a farce.
I heard they've already done the same in France and Australia.
But yes, stocking up some basic things. It's undoable to stock up for months on end, it'd cost a fortune which I haven't got.
But simple, basic food and bog roll and tobacco and coffee. And of course catfood.
The rest I could order and not a problem to wait if need be.
Will also cost E6 per order so that also adds up. Not like you'd order a handful of things.

QR codes? I guess for basically everything like over here? Restaurants, shops, and so on?
At least here for now healthcare is exempt. For now...
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SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž

Sat 11/20/21 02:18 PM




Make 1940 Great again...
https://newsvoice.se/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Halsopass-TredjeRiket-320x420.jpg
Wonder if still valid in Austria?

An Austrian are at it again... Not nice in Austrians stores first to trying implement forced vaccination from 1 February whish is not democratic to say the least.
See: https://youtu.be/WvT6ezWWCow?t=253

My thoughts and prays goes to the Austrians.

The logic is basically... The "protected" need to be protected against the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that did not protect the protected.

Sadly it is clear the vaccines even in places with high vaccination grade donยดt work. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/worlds-most-vaccinated-region-cancels-christmas-for-drastic-rise-in-covid-cases/

couldn't agree with you more, especially the part I made bold.
It's all senseless.
Like tonight... I went to get a take away for which I had to enter and walk through the pizzeria.
Then I was asked for the QR code AFTER I had paid (wankers) and I had to wait outside. They brought me my meal when it was done.
But... THey themselves walked in and out through the entire restaurant WITHOUT a facemask which if memory serves is not allowed? Yet I need to show some stupid code on a phone at the counter in the middle of the restaurant.
Would make more sense to ask at the entrance BEFORE people have ordered & paid, and to have the employees wear masks too, if they pretend to follow the useless rules.

It's an insane world, and I fear it will get worse before it gets better.

I'll check the links tomorrow.
totally agree ... they should have asked for your QR code before you entered the restaurant .perhaps it is just a glitch .. and they will rectify the process . Although I did read in the Netherlands that not all businesses are compliant or consistent with QR code use .

Yes, not everyone agrees plus it's extra hassle for many as well. Like this pizzeria, they do not have a separate take away, nor option to create that. So for them it's very awkward, now having to harass people without code for take away while in actual fact that isn't the rule (yet).
But they have no choice because you have to enter their restaurant.
And logically not everyone agrees with the whole to-do either.
To be honest, I have to go to my hairdresser's Monday and I'm not even sure she has to ask, I think so. And I don't know if she does either.

EDIT: It's not needed for the hairdresser! YAY!
Edited by SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž on Sat 11/20/21 02:24 PM
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Blondey111

Sat 11/20/21 02:46 PM





Make 1940 Great again...
https://newsvoice.se/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Halsopass-TredjeRiket-320x420.jpg
Wonder if still valid in Austria?

An Austrian are at it again... Not nice in Austrians stores first to trying implement forced vaccination from 1 February whish is not democratic to say the least.
See: https://youtu.be/WvT6ezWWCow?t=253

My thoughts and prays goes to the Austrians.

The logic is basically... The "protected" need to be protected against the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that did not protect the protected.

Sadly it is clear the vaccines even in places with high vaccination grade donยดt work. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/worlds-most-vaccinated-region-cancels-christmas-for-drastic-rise-in-covid-cases/

couldn't agree with you more, especially the part I made bold.
It's all senseless.
Like tonight... I went to get a take away for which I had to enter and walk through the pizzeria.
Then I was asked for the QR code AFTER I had paid (wankers) and I had to wait outside. They brought me my meal when it was done.
But... THey themselves walked in and out through the entire restaurant WITHOUT a facemask which if memory serves is not allowed? Yet I need to show some stupid code on a phone at the counter in the middle of the restaurant.
Would make more sense to ask at the entrance BEFORE people have ordered & paid, and to have the employees wear masks too, if they pretend to follow the useless rules.

It's an insane world, and I fear it will get worse before it gets better.

I'll check the links tomorrow.
totally agree ... they should have asked for your QR code before you entered the restaurant .perhaps it is just a glitch .. and they will rectify the process . Although I did read in the Netherlands that not all businesses are compliant or consistent with QR code use .

Yes, not everyone agrees plus it's extra hassle for many as well. Like this pizzeria, they do not have a separate take away, nor option to create that. So for them it's very awkward, now having to harass people without code for take away while in actual fact that isn't the rule (yet).
But they have no choice because you have to enter their restaurant.
And logically not everyone agrees with the whole to-do either.
To be honest, I have to go to my hairdresser's Monday and I'm not even sure she has to ask, I think so. And I don't know if she does either.

EDIT: It's not needed for the hairdresser! YAY!
hairdressers were considered a high risk occupation (because of sustained close contact and indoor environment ) and were not permitted to operate under our level 3 and 4 lockdowns .

As for essential services including access to supermarkets .. I do not know of any country that has restricted access . Even Austriaโ€™s lockdown of their unvaccinated population still allows access to supermarkets and essential services .
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Unknow

Sun 11/21/21 05:44 AM

Things are getting crazy where you are.. riots etc. Are you safe Sparkling Crystal? โค:sparkling_heart:
Edited by Unknow on Sun 11/21/21 05:47 AM
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Smartazzjohn

Sun 11/21/21 06:40 AM

Three words you don't hear from politicians is "we don't know".

They don't say "we don't know if this policy will work and if after it's tried data shows it didn't help we will rescind the policy".

One thing the pandemic has shown is that too many politicians are more interested in gaining and wielding power over people rather than helping people.
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dust4fun

Sun 11/21/21 02:57 PM


Three words you don't hear from politicians is "we don't know".

They don't say "we don't know if this policy will work and if after it's tried data shows it didn't help we will rescind the policy".

One thing the pandemic has shown is that too many politicians are more interested in gaining and wielding power over people rather than helping people.


It's not just about them not saying "we don't know" but also "we should know" or "this is what we do know". It was funny how they had all these "experts" show up for this new and never dealt with virus. It seems strange that they came up with and distributed all these covid tests so soon after the outbreak and people are not interested in who is making these billions of tests. Corona, SARS, and covid are basically the same thing yet they avoided calling it SARS which was what they called the 2002 outbreak of Corona in China. They were able to isolate and contain that by heavy testing and quarantines.

Currently in the middle of the United States we have a large number cases, most hospitals are at maximum capacity. The vaccination rate is around 60% but those numbers can be confusing because it's very recent that children could get vaccinated, it is also some what unclear the ages of people who are getting covid, how many break thru cases there are, or how many have gotten covid more than once. It is also unclear where people are contracting this covid, I assume at this point most of it is being transmitted in schools and then brought home and spread, but wouldn't you think these out breaks would be easy to track? There are many who get covid and never get tested, some don't want to go thru the trouble, but there are also those who have been vaccinated and do not show symptoms of covid, this could be spreading it with out anybody even knowing it. The "Super spreader events" with over 50k people, many not wearing masks, do not seem to have an effect on the number of cases in an area. Really makes one wonder if masks do more harm than good? It seems the covid is more in control of its own cycle of its rise and fall.

The US uses vaccination cards and not QR codes, however I could see that changing someday. A "QR" code is just another way for them to track you and control you, not that they don't already know everywhere you go and everything you do by tracking your cell phone. Big Brother is watching you, and if you are dumb enough to believe "who cares, I don't do anything wrong" then you better think again. They are already censoring the internet and custom feed news feeds and ads custom fit to what they want you to know. Aren't debit and credit cards so much easier than cash? That way they can track everything from what you make, to what you spend it on. Just think if everyone was trapped at home pollution would go down and they wouldn't need to spend as much on roads. The real winners in this pandemic is the government gaining control over the people, also hospitals and drug companies, and Amazon and other delivery companies. People who thought they would never have anything delivered to their home are now addicted to getting everything delivered to their homes. It's not a matter of getting rid of covid, but controlling it with out being controlled.
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SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž

Sun 11/21/21 03:20 PM


Things are getting crazy where you are.. riots etc. Are you safe Sparkling Crystal? โค:sparkling_heart:

Yes I am safe, thank you, LadyWind! flowerforyou
If there are riots it's usually in bigger places, usually the cities, and I don't live near them. Where I am is more like farmers and remote area, backwater peninsula really.
There has been trouble in the city in this province too though, earlier during the pandemic, but that's 42km from me and one peninsula down from me, to the south.

So I'm quite safe here :) So far anyways.

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Blondey111

Sun 11/21/21 03:28 PM

@dust the genome composition is different . SARS, MERS and Covid may belong to the genus of Coronaviruses but they are not the same virus .

As for mask wearing .. Europe was among the first countries to relax restrictions on social distancing and mask wearing , however vaccination rates were inadequate and now there is evidence of uncontrolled spread . Until herd immunity is achieved .. vaccination alone (with the current vaccines ) is not enough to control Delta . Mask wearing , hand hygiene and social distancing are still very important means to reduce spread . waving

P.s. Wonโ€™t comment on politics .... other than to say it always has been about power .
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SparklingCrystal ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’Ž

Sun 11/21/21 03:30 PM


As for essential services including access to supermarkets .. I do not know of any country that has restricted access . Even Austriaโ€™s lockdown of their unvaccinated population still allows access to supermarkets and essential services .

As it is I can go to the hairdressers. I checked that yesterday.

I see online that Macron had planned to restrict access to the supermarkets for people without QR code but it didn't happen in the end.
Lets just hope they won't go that far. So far governments have crossed lines more than once so you never know what they come up with next.

I will still make sure I got some basic stuff of goodies I can't do a day without, hihi. Better safe than sorry :)
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Blondey111

Sun 11/21/21 04:11 PM



As for essential services including access to supermarkets .. I do not know of any country that has restricted access . Even Austriaโ€™s lockdown of their unvaccinated population still allows access to supermarkets and essential services .

As it is I can go to the hairdressers. I checked that yesterday.

I see online that Macron had planned to restrict access to the supermarkets for people without QR code but it didn't happen in the end.
Lets just hope they won't go that far. So far governments have crossed lines more than once so you never know what they come up with next.

I will still make sure I got some basic stuff of goodies I can't do a day without, hihi. Better safe than sorry :)
in NZ a lot of the onus has been put onto businesses .. they can choose to implement QR and vaccination screening and have less restrictions on how they operate . Businesses choosing not to , can only trade if their operation is contactless .

I cannot imagine govt preventing access to essentials . However supermarkets are generally not government owned . There is potential they may impose their own requirements for entry but I donโ€™t believe that will happen. It will certainly not be govt mandated . .
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Calle

Mon 11/22/21 04:16 AM

Sweden have not had mask mandates and are thankfully this far not had it worse, now we are doing better then most Europe.

If Austria imposses mandatory vaccines i think Q-code are much less worse, so i hope all can agree that that is wrong. But as other said big brother can track you with q-code.
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dust4fun

Fri 11/26/21 07:40 PM


@dust the genome composition is different . SARS, MERS and Covid may belong to the genus of Coronaviruses but they are not the same virus .

As for mask wearing .. Europe was among the first countries to relax restrictions on social distancing and mask wearing , however vaccination rates were inadequate and now there is evidence of uncontrolled spread . Until herd immunity is achieved .. vaccination alone (with the current vaccines ) is not enough to control Delta . Mask wearing , hand hygiene and social distancing are still very important means to reduce spread . waving

P.s. Wonโ€™t comment on politics .... other than to say it always has been about power .


I said "basically". But SARS is Covid and Covid is SARS, they should have called the 2003 out break of "SARS" something different, it is 80% similar to covid19 so we are still comparing apples to apples, but not all apples taste the same. MERS is 50% similar but also SARS and Covid, but being that was in the Middle East it's something to look into but not as big of concern. Covid, or corona (crown-spikes) virus. 2003 SARS killed about 10% of the 8000 it infected, covid19 is much less deadly percentage wise with less than 1% dieing, but the transmission rate is so high that it's taking out such a large number of people. So 16 years ago they knew how deadly SARS can be, China has most likely done much research on it. Most of the time it's not if, but when it returns. The saying F... me once, F... you, F... me twice, F... me. The world should of had at least a bit of a heads up. Covid19 has already altered itself a few times and currently we have another big scare in southern Africa.

Hygiene can play a big part in many parts of our lives, but too much hygiene has also created problems of its own. A mask my keep spit from flying on to somebody, but if people touch their mask, like many do, the virus could be closer to an intake point. It also gives people a false sense of security in which they take more risks because they think they will be protected. Some countries have imposed travel restrictions on southern Africa already, while others are saying such restrictions are not necessary as this variant will find its way into other populations no matter what is done. It is not yet clear what travel restrictions, quarantines, vaccines, and other restrictions have on the long term affects of outcomes as the virus also seems to make its own cycles.

Even after heard immunity is achieved thru infections and/or vaccines it is very likely covid will still have outbreaks and kill some people just like influenza, or it could keep mutating and transferring to different species til it takes out a large portion of the population. There is also a chance it will just disappear. When was the last time you heard about a case of the bird flu? Swine flu? Mad cow disease? Sometimes nature can do some strange things.
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Blondey111

Fri 11/26/21 11:43 PM



@dust the genome composition is different . SARS, MERS and Covid may belong to the genus of Coronaviruses but they are not the same virus .

As for mask wearing .. Europe was among the first countries to relax restrictions on social distancing and mask wearing , however vaccination rates were inadequate and now there is evidence of uncontrolled spread . Until herd immunity is achieved .. vaccination alone (with the current vaccines ) is not enough to control Delta . Mask wearing , hand hygiene and social distancing are still very important means to reduce spread . waving

P.s. Wonโ€™t comment on politics .... other than to say it always has been about power .


I said "basically". But SARS is Covid and Covid is SARS, they should have called the 2003 out break of "SARS" something different, it is 80% similar to covid19 so we are still comparing apples to apples, but not all apples taste the same. MERS is 50% similar but also SARS and Covid, but being that was in the Middle East it's something to look into but not as big of concern. Covid, or corona (crown-spikes) virus. 2003 SARS killed about 10% of the 8000 it infected, covid19 is much less deadly percentage wise with less than 1% dieing, but the transmission rate is so high that it's taking out such a large number of people. So 16 years ago they knew how deadly SARS can be, China has most likely done much research on it. Most of the time it's not if, but when it returns. The saying F... me once, F... you, F... me twice, F... me. The world should of had at least a bit of a heads up. Covid19 has already altered itself a few times and currently we have another big scare in southern Africa.

Hygiene can play a big part in many parts of our lives, but too much hygiene has also created problems of its own. A mask my keep spit from flying on to somebody, but if people touch their mask, like many do, the virus could be closer to an intake point. It also gives people a false sense of security in which they take more risks because they think they will be protected. Some countries have imposed travel restrictions on southern Africa already, while others are saying such restrictions are not necessary as this variant will find its way into other populations no matter what is done. It is not yet clear what travel restrictions, quarantines, vaccines, and other restrictions have on the long term affects of outcomes as the virus also seems to make its own cycles.

Even after heard immunity is achieved thru infections and/or vaccines it is very likely covid will still have outbreaks and kill some people just like influenza, or it could keep mutating and transferring to different species til it takes out a large portion of the population. There is also a chance it will just disappear. When was the last time you heard about a case of the bird flu? Swine flu? Mad cow disease? Sometimes nature can do some strange things.


We will always remain vulnerable to pathogens and pandemics .

Viruses can lay dormant for many years . We still screen for and isolate any suspected or confirmed active H1N1 influenza cases . Influenza vaccines usually target H1N1 along with seasonal influenza strains .

MCD is not transmitted human to human .

As for covid .. we are nowhere near close to achieving global herd immunity .

The news from South Africa highlights the importance of vaccine access equity .

If the pandemic has taught the world one thing .. i hope that it is not to be complacent . I can certainly understand the caution countries are taking until more information is available about Omicron. waving