That is all kinds of silly talk. You're pissed because he's asking you for suggestions?
It's like you're reading into something that's not even there. Ever think the dude just wants to make you happy? Perhaps it works out better for everybody involved when you play the "I'm gonna drop a bunch of hints and you have to figure chit out" rather than being upfront
Just sayin!
Personally, I'd dip on a broad like that. I'm too old for the games and time is running out
And Merry.... bowling is fun! But I'd never take you there if you explicitly said you hate bowling. If you didn't tell me, and I was taking charge and that's where I planned - since you're siding with carebear, the date doesn't work out because you are in a place you don't wanna be.
Dudes can't win
That's ok...the boys will just go for beers and leave you hens doing whatever it is you like to do without us
Bob, it's nuanced and if you're spending time having a hours of conversation then it shouldn't be so hard when it's actually time to go out. It's the same as gifting, if you pay attention it's not hard to gift someone, it's not about the gift - it's about listening actively and learning. It does work for some people to be completely direct and say, so what do you want for your birthday/ what do you want to do? (blah blah blah...) But, if you've invested time already then, one should be paying attention and it shouldn't be like pulling teeth.
Lol...! Also, I'm not saying that both people can't throw out options and have conversation about first date. I think that it's always good for both people to come to the table.
And, that's why I understand what Carebear is saying.
And, if you feel that fellas "can't win", you won't with that attitude.
Last note: I have been taken bowling even after saying explicitly (prior) that it's not a thing I enjoy. All I'm going to say is: balls and holes 🤢🤢🤢
But, someone did not listen... ðŸ«
Everything in life is nuanced.
Dudes don't wanna play a game where that they can't win....so it's ok to have that attitude! And if there's expectations before the first date even takes place - that will go nowhere in a hurry because, it can only get more complicated from there.
Look at it from a dude's point of view - we are expected to take you out, be charming, entertain you, and pay for the date - and don't say you don't expect him to pay, because a dude that don't pay is not going to float your boat enough for a second date
What is a girl bringing, and what expectations should the guy expect? I can dig the fact that a guy could have expectations as well - Usually they want some nookie for what they've invested...but I think that, that's wrong too.
Balls and holes....thats pool or billiards. Bowling is knocking down pins. Both are great dates for guys, because you get to check out her azz without her noticing you staring, and pool is great when she leans in for a shot.
Edited by
bobtail76
on Sat 01/06/24 07:38 AM