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Hannie

Tue 01/09/24 05:40 AM

When you're in a relationship and one wants to break up, and the other doesn't want to agree and commits suicide. Do you think it was your fault that he/she killed himself/herself? why?? I wanna know know your answers..
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Merry

Tue 01/09/24 06:28 AM

The subject of suicide is a sensitive matter for many people. Perhaps give more context if you would like people to give their input.
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Tach

Tue 01/09/24 06:53 AM

You can not be responsible for another's mental instability.
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Unknow

Tue 01/09/24 07:59 AM


When you're in a relationship and one wants to break up, and the other doesn't want to agree and commits suicide. Do you think it was your fault that he/she killed himself/herself? why?? I wanna know know your answers..



If you are in crisis, please seek help immediately.

If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call or text 988 or chat 988lifeline.org . Text MHA to 741741 to connect with a trained Crisis Counselor from Crisis Text Line . Call 911 or go to the nearest emergency room. This information is specific to United States but please where ever you are seek professional medical services.

Mental health services are especially beneficial when you have lost someone to suicide not just if you are suicidal.


Edited by Unknow on Tue 01/09/24 08:00 AM
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soufiehere

Tue 01/09/24 08:06 AM


When you're in a relationship and one wants to break up, and the other doesn't want to agree and commits suicide. Do you think it was your fault that he/she killed himself/herself? why?? I wanna know know your answers..

Nothing and no one can stop someone determined to end their life.

YOU are collateral damage.
They damaged you, not vice versa.
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Unknow

Tue 01/09/24 08:26 AM



When you're in a relationship and one wants to break up, and the other doesn't want to agree and commits suicide. Do you think it was your fault that he/she killed himself/herself? why?? I wanna know know your answers..

Nothing and no one can stop someone determined to end their life.

YOU are collateral damage.
They damaged you, not vice versa.


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Ꮢ Ꭷ Ᏸ ɨ Ꮑ

Tue 01/09/24 09:44 PM

When you're in a relationship and one wants to break up, and the other doesn't want to agree and commits suicide. Do you think it was your fault that he/she killed himself/herself? why?? I wanna know know your answers..

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Jaan Doh

Wed 01/10/24 12:58 AM


When you're in a relationship and one wants to break up, and the other doesn't want to agree and commits suicide. Do you think it was your fault that he/she killed himself/herself? why?? I wanna know know your answers..




As many of the other members have stated already, suicide is a touchy topic...

I guess that in a round about way of saying, the person is saying (in an unspoken, between the lines kind of way), that if they cannot be with you, they don't want to be with anyone else?..

Suicide in my religion (Islam) is forbidden, and being a believer, is something I would not contemplate...

Everyone is different and some people are mentally strong and some not so strong...

In my humble opinion (because that's all it is) it is not a good ending because of the collateral damage that it does (as other members stated), can you imagine the damage it could do to young minds (children)?...

Well done you, for raising a topic which is or can be a taboo subject, and bringing other people's minds onto a common occurrence, and a subject which is not easy to talk about, even with compassionate people, let alone the mindless trolls who seek a quick fix to their ego's...


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Unknow

Wed 01/10/24 05:19 AM



When you're in a relationship and one wants to break up, and the other doesn't want to agree and commits suicide. Do you think it was your fault that he/she killed himself/herself? why?? I wanna know know your answers..




As many of the other members have stated already, suicide is a touchy topic...

I guess that in a round about way of saying, the person is saying (in an unspoken, between the lines kind of way), that if they cannot be with you, they don't want to be with anyone else?..

Suicide in my religion (Islam) is forbidden, and being a believer, is something I would not contemplate...

Everyone is different and some people are mentally strong and some not so strong...

In my humble opinion (because that's all it is) it is not a good ending because of the collateral damage that it does (as other members stated), can you imagine the damage it could do to young minds (children)?...

Well done you, for raising a topic which is or can be a taboo subject, and bringing other people's minds onto a common occurrence, and a subject which is not easy to talk about, even with compassionate people, let alone the mindless trolls who seek a quick fix to their ego's...





I can tell you the damage it does to a person. The father of my children called me at work one day and told me he just took a bottle of pills because I ruined his life. It wasn't the first he threatened suicide it was the 3rd. Each call was extremely traumatic. This time was different because he said he took pills. He didn't ask me to meet him like he usually did before and he refused to tell me where he was. He hung up where normally he would stay on the phone until i got to him and then he would abuse me. This time was different because it was the first time after I got away from him. I called the police and kept trying to call and text to get a response and luckily he did answer but didn't talk. The police were able to find him in time because he had in fact taken pills. He did not complete suicide but I'm still in therapy 6 years later. I changed my phone number and stopped communicating with him all together. At that point he still had a good relationship with his children (or at least had not abused them physically or verbally) and would talk to them on the phone. Last year I got a call from the school that they had to remove and restrain my oldest son because he had an outburst on the bus. Turns out his dad sent a suicide text around 2am and my son found it at 730am and even though once again it was just a threat my children are now dealing with that trauma in therapy. I changed all numbers and cut communication completely. I have total custody of my kids and if he was to want to change that he would have to do it by getting healthy, stable and get his rights legally. He's not put any effort into that.
He still posts about me on social media. Makes fake dating accounts. Last year he set me up by convincing a man to talk to me and agree to meet then he was going to ambush me. The man (another addict) actually told me and didn't go through with it. So that has completely changed how I meet people. He has damaged my car while I worked. He calls child protective services on me and the police several times. Calls my work...These things just continue but aren't as often. No court order or legal action stops it completely. His kids don't cry for him anymore. They don't ask about him but I know they still love him. We all still pray for him even though it's more likely his addiction is going to take him. Statisticly people who complete suicide have used or are under the influence when they've done it. Which was the case the time he took the pills. Often I think that I've signed his death certificate by cutting ties. I think maybe there is no one else that would call for help if he tried to hurt himself. Sometimes I have horrible thoughts about that situation considering what he continues to do. These thoughts alone are triggering even now. We love and care for him but Ultimately I have to choose the safety and health of myself and my kids. It's more likely his family will get news of his death but we still pray and are hopeful for a better outcome.
Edited by Unknow on Wed 01/10/24 05:23 AM
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soufiehere

Wed 01/10/24 06:20 AM


I can tell you the damage it does to a person. The father of my children called me at work one day and told me he just took a bottle of pills because I ruined his life. It wasn't the first he threatened suicide it was the 3rd. Each call was extremely traumatic. This time was different because he said he took pills. He didn't ask me to meet him like he usually did before and he refused to tell me where he was. He hung up where normally he would stay on the phone until i got to him and then he would abuse me. This time was different because it was the first time after I got away from him. I called the police and kept trying to call and text to get a response and luckily he did answer but didn't talk. The police were able to find him in time because he had in fact taken pills. He did not complete suicide but I'm still in therapy 6 years later. I changed my phone number and stopped communicating with him all together. At that point he still had a good relationship with his children (or at least had not abused them physically or verbally) and would talk to them on the phone. Last year I got a call from the school that they had to remove and restrain my oldest son because he had an outburst on the bus. Turns out his dad sent a suicide text around 2am and my son found it at 730am and even though once again it was just a threat my children are now dealing with that trauma in therapy. I changed all numbers and cut communication completely. I have total custody of my kids and if he was to want to change that he would have to do it by getting healthy, stable and get his rights legally. He's not put any effort into that.
He still posts about me on social media. Makes fake dating accounts. Last year he set me up by convincing a man to talk to me and agree to meet then he was going to ambush me. The man (another addict) actually told me and didn't go through with it. So that has completely changed how I meet people. He has damaged my car while I worked. He calls child protective services on me and the police several times. Calls my work...These things just continue but aren't as often. No court order or legal action stops it completely. His kids don't cry for him anymore. They don't ask about him but I know they still love him. We all still pray for him even though it's more likely his addiction is going to take him. Statisticly people who complete suicide have used or are under the influence when they've done it. Which was the case the time he took the pills. Often I think that I've signed his death certificate by cutting ties. I think maybe there is no one else that would call for help if he tried to hurt himself. Sometimes I have horrible thoughts about that situation considering what he continues to do. These thoughts alone are triggering even now. We love and care for him but Ultimately I have to choose the safety and health of myself and my kids. It's more likely his family will get news of his death but we still pray and are hopeful for a better outcome.

He has indeed found a very useful tool to get your
attention/cooperation. He might as well be holding
a gun to your head, or your children's heads.
It is bound to go off sooner or later.

You cannot really prepare for it.
It is all his choice.
All you can do is protect yourselves as best you can.

At least you have had some warnings of what is to come.
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Unknow

Thu 01/11/24 05:17 AM

The Realization that All You Have is a Photo
and that She is Never Coming Back
Is just Too Much to Bare. :heart:
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Jaan Doh

Mon 02/05/24 01:12 PM




When you're in a relationship and one wants to break up, and the other doesn't want to agree and commits suicide. Do you think it was your fault that he/she killed himself/herself? why?? I wanna know know your answers..




As many of the other members have stated already, suicide is a touchy topic...

I guess that in a round about way of saying, the person is saying (in an unspoken, between the lines kind of way), that if they cannot be with you, they don't want to be with anyone else?..

Suicide in my religion (Islam) is forbidden, and being a believer, is something I would not contemplate...

Everyone is different and some people are mentally strong and some not so strong...

In my humble opinion (because that's all it is) it is not a good ending because of the collateral damage that it does (as other members stated), can you imagine the damage it could do to young minds (children)?...

Well done you, for raising a topic which is or can be a taboo subject, and bringing other people's minds onto a common occurrence, and a subject which is not easy to talk about, even with compassionate people, let alone the mindless trolls who seek a quick fix to their ego's...





I can tell you the damage it does to a person. The father of my children called me at work one day and told me he just took a bottle of pills because I ruined his life. It wasn't the first he threatened suicide it was the 3rd. Each call was extremely traumatic. This time was different because he said he took pills. He didn't ask me to meet him like he usually did before and he refused to tell me where he was. He hung up where normally he would stay on the phone until i got to him and then he would abuse me. This time was different because it was the first time after I got away from him. I called the police and kept trying to call and text to get a response and luckily he did answer but didn't talk. The police were able to find him in time because he had in fact taken pills. He did not complete suicide but I'm still in therapy 6 years later. I changed my phone number and stopped communicating with him all together. At that point he still had a good relationship with his children (or at least had not abused them physically or verbally) and would talk to them on the phone. Last year I got a call from the school that they had to remove and restrain my oldest son because he had an outburst on the bus. Turns out his dad sent a suicide text around 2am and my son found it at 730am and even though once again it was just a threat my children are now dealing with that trauma in therapy. I changed all numbers and cut communication completely. I have total custody of my kids and if he was to want to change that he would have to do it by getting healthy, stable and get his rights legally. He's not put any effort into that.
He still posts about me on social media. Makes fake dating accounts. Last year he set me up by convincing a man to talk to me and agree to meet then he was going to ambush me. The man (another addict) actually told me and didn't go through with it. So that has completely changed how I meet people. He has damaged my car while I worked. He calls child protective services on me and the police several times. Calls my work...These things just continue but aren't as often. No court order or legal action stops it completely. His kids don't cry for him anymore. They don't ask about him but I know they still love him. We all still pray for him even though it's more likely his addiction is going to take him. Statisticly people who complete suicide have used or are under the influence when they've done it. Which was the case the time he took the pills. Often I think that I've signed his death certificate by cutting ties. I think maybe there is no one else that would call for help if he tried to hurt himself. Sometimes I have horrible thoughts about that situation considering what he continues to do. These thoughts alone are triggering even now. We love and care for him but Ultimately I have to choose the safety and health of myself and my kids. It's more likely his family will get news of his death but we still pray and are hopeful for a better outcome.


Well gosh that's some heavy chit... No matter how strong I think I am mentally, even I would struggle deeply with something like that...

It's always painful to read some of the sad/bad things that happen to people, and I'm sure there are no words that could make you feel better or to stop the triggering...

All too often, things like that, affect others long after the person who is causing the problems has left this world...

I cannot figure out why people do these things, on one side my mind says maybe they were a spoiled, only child.... On the other, it says maybe they went through some trauma in their childhood and that's the cause...

But the truth of the matter is that only God, and the person knows the real reasons...





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Toodygirl5

Mon 02/05/24 01:23 PM


You can not be responsible for another's mental instability.



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