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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sun 08/31/25 03:13 AM

Age is just a number is said so often here.
Personally I feel it's a really naive statement.

Why is it naive?
Are you as 20-30 year old interested in an 70-85 year old who's in a scootmobile, needs a walker, has wrinkles, is incontinent, has loose skin and sagged bodyparts and cannot even bend over to pick something up from the floor when they drop it?
And you're younger than their grandchildren?
Get real!

When is age -maybe- just a number?
According to the Essenes we have bodies that can last at least 900 years (source Gregg Braden, scientist).

In that case age is just a number, although even then there'd be vast differences in life experiences and thus wisdom someone has.

There are currently people on the planet who are potentially around 400 years old.
They live far away from society, certainly Western society, and live in healthy clean environment, no stress and the shizzel that comes with Western lifestyle.

We can live much longer, but then we'd have to abandon our lifestyle and the way our societies are construed.
It'd mean moving away from the whole monetary system & jobs that we don't even like as these only wear us out. They give us so much stress and anxiety that they have a serious impact on the length of our lives.
This is scientific.
Then there's the belief the masses have that we die around 85 and that old age comes with a body that breaks down.

So unless we can live at least 900 years like the Essenes said we could, it's just a really unintelligent thing to say that age is just a number.

(That's me being polite and not saying "it's total b*ll*x)

Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Sun 08/31/25 03:15 AM

PeterB

Sun 08/31/25 08:03 AM

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When is age -maybe- just a number?
According to the Essenes we have bodies that can last at least 900 years (source Gregg Braden, scientist).

In that case age is just a number, although even then there'd be vast differences in life experiences and thus wisdom someone has.

There are currently people on the planet who are potentially around 400 years old.

The claims "400 years" and "900 years" are, at best, questionable. The longest verifiable life span, according to, i.a., Guiness Book of Records, is around 120 years. A possible extreme life span that you may live to see for anybody is 150 to 200 years. Still, that means that "age is just a number" is a foolish statement.

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We can live much longer, but then we'd have to abandon our lifestyle and the way our societies are construed.
It'd mean moving away from the whole monetary system & jobs that we don't even like as these only wear us out. They give us so much stress and anxiety that they have a serious impact on the length of our lives.

This is scientific.

You elided "speculation" at the end of the last sentence.

Then there's the belief the masses have that we die around 85 and that old age comes with a body that breaks down.

That belief is supported by life-span statistics.

So unless we can live at least 900 years like the Essenes said we could, it's just a really unintelligent thing to say that age is just a number.

Regardless of the Essenes, saying that "age is just a number" is, at best, uninformed.

(That's me being polite and not saying "it's total b*ll*x)

A polite and yet clear way of saying what you were too polite to say is to refer to "male-bovine excrement."

Edited by PeterB on Sun 08/31/25 08:08 AM

Don

Sun 08/31/25 10:58 AM

A polite and yet clear way of saying what you were too polite to say is to refer to "male-bovine excrement."

also known as bovril.

motowndowntown

Sun 08/31/25 11:39 AM

The "age is just a number" people who post on here generally fall into two categories;

1. Young men in their twenties who can't hook up with women their own age and believe that older "aunties" are desperate for "company".

2. Scammers pretending to be young beautiful women trying to bilk old men out of their life savings.

That said; there are quite a few relationships between people with quite large age differences that work out very well.

And quite a number of quite old rich men who marry much younger trophy wives, mainly because they are rich and can afford to do so.

And, just for the record, there are no four-hundred year old people living on earth, (except for the well known "lizard aliens" of course).

motowndowntown

Sun 08/31/25 11:44 AM

also known as bovril.

How are you?

Case in point.

PeterB

Sun 08/31/25 11:46 AM

A polite and yet clear way of saying what you were too polite to say is to refer to "male-bovine excrement."

also known as bovril.

According to Wikipedia, the etymology of Bovril indicates "great strength obtained from an ox". Thus, not quite the same thing as male-bovine excrement, although male-bovine excrement may have a strong smell.

soufiehere

Sun 08/31/25 01:29 PM

Age is Just A Number..

And as that number climbs be prepared to seem
useless to a large segment of society.

It is going to be 'you' against 'them'.

As you gain in knowledge, they lose their tact.

PeterB

Sun 08/31/25 02:49 PM

Age is Just A Number.

And as that number climbs be prepared to seem
useless to a large segment of society.

It is going to be 'you' against 'them'.

As you gain in knowledge, they lose their tact.

It seems to me that the vast majority of the likes I get are young enough to be my children or grandchildren. Over the years, I have seen enough to suspect that, to a lot of people on dating apps, old people are useful for one and only one thing: as a source of money.

GravelRidgeBoy

Tue 09/02/25 12:48 AM

Age is just a number, it does not mean that a person has actually matured to that level. Then you have a few young ones who seem to have matured too fast (talking about there mental state). But that does not mean that an immature old person should be in a relationship with a matured young person, there is just too much differences with their experiences and the life they have lived.
So I will still agree to a point that age is just a number, but it is a number that I use +/- 10 years of my number (and I use their actual number and not the one they were told they might look like in a dimly lit bar...lol)

PeterB

Tue 09/02/25 06:32 AM

Age is just a number; it does not mean that a person has actually matured to that level. ...

When, in the paleolithic, I was working for a living, somebody said "there are people with 20 years of experience and people who have one year of experience, repeated 20 times."

soufiehere

Tue 09/02/25 08:18 AM

Age is just a number; it does not mean that a person has actually matured to that level. ...

When, in the paleolithic, I was working for a living, somebody said "there are people with 20 years of experience and people who have one year of experience, repeated 20 times."

Ooooo, I like this ;-)

GravelRidgeBoy

Tue 09/02/25 10:51 PM

When, in the paleolithic, I was working for a living, somebody said "there are people with 20 years of experience and people who have one year of experience, repeated 20 times."

I think I had a marriage like that. We were both military so it was like one of us was always out of the country for long stretches of time...lol

SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sat 09/06/25 02:07 AM

I'm not going to reply to each comment as I usually do.
What I have read is that people here aren't familiar with the science and scientific facts that I'm familiar with.
What I see is that everyone is leaning on the old Newtonian stuff which in this case is pointless.
And based on that people think they know what they're talking about, discarding everything else without even asking questions. That's what always flabbergabbers me, the closed-mindedness of people.
As opposed to try and ridicule the one that brings knowledge that you don't have, maybe educate yourself first.
Epigenetics, telomeres and so on. Bruce Lipton, Gregg Braden, the real science, not the old stuff.
Once you've done that, you can come back here and say "Dang, you're right!!"

Michael

Mon 09/08/25 03:16 PM

The telomeres in your DNA will determine the maximum life someone can live. For each person that is different. It depends upon how many you have and how fast you use them up.

For years there has been a discussion of using genetic editing to add telomeres to your DNA. The theory is that humans can live to 1,000 years old. Right now none of that is remotely possible. There is one person who is actively trying to do this (in another country). There are so many problems and impediments that I do not see this happening in my lifetime.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Tue 09/09/25 04:31 PM

Not correct.
It's not that you have a certain amount.

It's about telomere length. As long as your telomeres stay at normal length, which will be the case when you live a truly healthy AND happy life, you will get hundreds of years old.

If you don't live a happy life (stress is detrimental and Western lifestyle is chockfull of stress) there's wear and tear of telomeres and your lifespan gets shorter and shorter.

But... they can get longer! Spend 3x 10 mins a day in gratitude and they will get longer again!

And there ARE people on the planet right now that are so old no one knows exactly how old. They've never been registered as they're from before the time people got registered to begin with and they live far away from regular civilisation.
They are allegedly around 400 years old, but who knows, maybe they're even older.

There's also official registration of Chinese military of a man who joined the army in his 70s (!!!) until he was in his 90s(!!!). It is registered as well when they sent him birthday cards:100, 150 etc. He lived to be almost 200 years old.
Chinese official records are very meticulous and trustworthy. He'd had quite the number of wives and loads of children and grandchildren.
He was born somewhere around 1730 and died around 1932. (can't recall the dates from the top of my head, you can Google it).

Palesa

Tue 09/09/25 05:46 PM

can you be more explicit?

Michael

Wed 09/10/25 12:47 PM

I think that you are getting specialized cells (germline, stem, WBC) mixed up with somatic cells.

Reproductive cells and WBC are specialized cells where the telemerase enzymes regenerate telomeres. They need healthy cells so that we can replicate ourselves and survive infections. There are very few of these cells in your body.

Somatic cells are the cells in the rest of your body. They lose telomeres as you age. You are born with an average of 8,000 base pairs (TTAGGG - Thymine, Adenine, and Guanine molecules). Your somatic cells replace themselves every 1-2 years. Each time they replicate, they lose telomeres (30-50 per year). By the time you are 65 you will only have 1,500 base pairs left.

People can be born with 5,000 to 15,000 base pairs. And, some people use up more telomeres faster then others. Those people who have more telomeres and use them up slower will live longer. Once you start to run out of telomeres, the cell will enter into cellular senescences (death of the cell). If enough cells die, you will die a natural death. The physical limit of life as a human.

Scientist want to find out if they can engineer telemerase on somatic cells to make them immortal. But, there is a problem with that. Cancer is basically somatic cells with telemerase. The other option is genetic editing to add base pairs. But, there are problems with the genetic material accumulating in the liver and killing the patient.

Yes, reduced stress, good diet, and reduction of UV lights can increase your life span by a couple years based upon studies. But, this is an issue with the DNA as a whole.