This is about Defending Law Enforcement, and those that need to quit with their lies about what Law Enforcement is doing and cause those that encourage violence against Law Enforcement over Immigration.

Law Enforcement should be praised and protected not having to fight for their lives doing what they are suppose to.

This has to do with Immigration Policy!

Love his final words~~~



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It's not that Democrats are attacking law enforcement. It's that certain elements of the law enforcement community--the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been gutted of their qualified officers and filled with unqualified thugs that have been terrorizing and deporting legal immigrants. Those "officers" have been running around in unmarked cars, not wearing uniforms or even identification and just running and tackling people. Like gang members. That's what Gavin Newsom and many other Democrats are complaining about, and JD Vance just ignores those very important points.

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Can you blame these officers for being unmarked, when the bleeding hearts are targeting them, and doxing them when given a chance. All these officers are trying to do is their mandate. These people need protection from those nutjobs that are using violence to prevent them from doing their job.

These "qualified" officers you speak to, are no longer qualified when they do not follow the chain of command.

What else are you bitchin about...the tackling. You're right, they don't resist - ever. Perhaps the officers should offer them a balloon to come with them nicely

First of all the reason that many ICE Agents are going plain clothes or wearing mask is due to many of them getting attacked or Harassed for doing their jobs.;.

Anyone that thinks they should not be Protected for doing their jobs are welcome to sign up for the job if they think they can do any better..

As far as them wearing plain clothes that is not against the law...

http://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/plainclothes-ice-arrest-in-san-diego-raises-questions-about-legality/


"What does the law require?"

Federal law doesn’t mandate uniforms, but agencies like ICE typically require officers to carry and display identification. Under the National Defense Authorization Act of 2021, federal agents responding to civil disturbances must “visibly display” IDs and agency affiliation—but undercover and plainclothes officers are exempt.

Additionally, ICE has authority under Section 287 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to arrest individuals without warrants in public spaces—but only when they have probable cause or valid administrative arrest warrants.

ICE policy also allows agents to make arrests outside or within courthouses, something that has occurred in San Diego.

Maybe it's OK in your neighborhood that cops beat civilians, but I know us Americans are promised due process through our Constitution. Cops aren't allowed to abuse the 4th Amendment and just tackle and arrest anybody not presenting as a "fine, upstanding citizen." They have to have probable cause to stop people, and without witnessing a crime, they have to have a warrant before arresting the same. Maybe President Trump is crying about some national emergency, but legal immigrants have been in the US for decades and there is no emergency. No need for violence.

And I dare you to find a situation where ICE agents in regular uniforms with badges and name tags were assaulted more than plain-clothed officers. Maybe they were called names, but that, too is protected in the US. US citizens can legally tell police officers to f**k off. That's been litigated and established, protected speech.

Yes, ICE agents are being asked to do a job in an illegal fashion. Where they're told to arrest people to meet Stephen Miller's quota of 3,000 immigrants per day. Arrest quotas are the opposite of probably cause and due process.

And it's not valid undercover work when driving around in a van to round up suspected undocumented immigrants. Law enforcement officers already have the means to protect their identities on the job. Ever looked up a police officer's address or phone number? If you had, you'd know their name and number just leads you to their police building or headquarters. When ICE tells you they're protecting their officers by hiding their faces, it's a lie.

In the USA, we are guaranteed due process by the Constitution, and that due process is not reserved only for citizens. The Constitution makes clear that the government cannot arrest people on mere "hunch" or vague suspicions. Trump and Vance may claim otherwise, but they're lying.

Citizens are protected with the constitution, not illegals

Nice try, but:
The Constitution Protects All People—Not Just Citizens
engagefordemocracy.substack.com/p/the-constitution-protects-all-peoplenot

Also nice try...

just because you found some article that states that the supreme court has on occasion gave non citizens protections, it doesn't mean that much.

I guess we'll find out who's right if each one of these "violations" make it to the supreme court or if their azzes get sent back to where they came

It's not that the SCOTUS "on occasion" gives rights to non-citizens. It's that the Constitution explicitly uses the term "person" and not "citizen." Maybe you think that means we're free to pick which rights go to immigrants, and the DOJ should punish "dangerous opinion." But the courts usually say that immigrants get to speak their minds regardless of the current administration's view on Israel, without being imprisoned/deported by the government. I agree, and now the courts are ruling closer to my opinion than yours.

Noncitizens have free speech rights, and the Trump admin violated them, judge rules
www.yahoo.com/news/articles/noncitizens-free-speech-rights-trump-192557031.html

'And it's not valid undercover work when driving around in a van to round up suspected undocumented immigrants.'


Interesting. I guess America is different. I would like to know which countries in the world don't have immigration officers driving around in a vehicle to round up suspected undocumented immigrants or those who overstay their welcome.

Yes, America is different. We have a Constitution that guarantees certain civil rights, including the right to due process and against unreasonable searches & seizure


constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-4/

'Interesting. I guess America is different. I would like to know which countries in the world don't have immigration officers driving around in a vehicle to round up suspected undocumented immigrants or those who overstay their welcome.'


Let me make a slight correction here. The sentence should have ended with .....to round up suspected undocumented immigrants or those who overstay their welcome when they received a call.

The first statement give the impression that immigration officers spend all day driving around rounding up suspects as opposed to receiving a call from law biding citizens (in addition to investigations) and taking action which is normal, globally.

In the case with ICE, does the first statement apply to them or the second?

Both. ICE is known to send agents when notified, but they also have others simply riding around looking for suspected immigrants, where they arrest immigrants who don't have their immigration paperwork handy, and even arrest US citizens.


U.S. citizens arrested by ICE have been 'kicked, dragged and detained for days'
www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/10/16/us-citizens-ice-arrests

170 country wide vs how many millions are there illegally - only according to pro-publica???
Even if true, I'd say those are good numbers.


They had 20 children and 2 cancer patients? Oh man...I wonder how many of them lost a goldfish or cried when their hamster died. Did any of them have to go to bed with no supper too because they didn't turn off the xbox? Oh the humanity.

I say 20 kids getting checked out is worth saving 1 kid from getting trafficked

I don't know what you've got going on in your life that makes you think it's no big deal to be detained by ICE for weeks, months or forever in El Salvador, but to most people, that's not nice. Even if they don't have pets left at home to die of starvation. People lose jobs and families over that kind of thing. That's why we have laws against punishment without due process. And getting disappeared in prison without court hearings is very much without due process.

In the mean time, ICE has hired thousands of out-of-shape goons to assault and batter the public however they like while their department head is getting the government to buy her a couple private jets so she doesn't have to fly commercial. There's no accountability and things are spinning out of control.

But go ahead and try to make the connection where Americans getting jailed for looking crosswise at ICE agents stops children from being trafficked.

Settle down little fella - one point at a time:

- I was making a counter point to your slanted boo-hoo article that included kids. I wasn't connecting kids to anything... they brought it up to gain sympathy. Perhaps you don't care about trafficked kids

- You're right... you don't know what's going on in my life. What the relevancy of that is, God knows

- For people that don't break any law, is not nice, so agreed. For filthy border crossing aliens...they get what's coming to them, whatever that may be. That is the inherent risk they take when they cross the border illegally. They have the potential to be shot when they are crossing the border. All subsequent punishments are less than death. There are probable legal ramifications for detaining US citizens for days and weeks and months on end and will be compensated.

- Pets left at home are still the responsibility of the illegal that had no right to have said pet in the US. If they were responsible pet owners, they'd have at the very least, animal control to pick up the animal. Placing the onus on the government, yet again.

- I don't see the point on body shaming ICE employees other than your vitriol. How about some love to all those buff ICE dudes? They should get some assault and batter credit as well. Let's play semantic games: you say assault and batter... I say arrest. You aren't in their position but I'm sure if you were, all your arrests would be handled with kid gloves and speech would be Ned Flanders-esk.

- Fat cats will do fat cat things. You will get no
argument from me. There should be more accountability for the tax payers dollar

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