Topic: Men & Women being friends
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Fri 10/24/25 06:43 AM

2 years ago I had a date with a man from a dating site.
That didn't work out at all, we both felt that way.
I kinda expected it upfront and we just didn't really click.

Nevertheless we occasionally stayed in touch. Not necessarily as friends but because he was interested in a couple of my paintings, over time bought two of them.
And I did a reading for him, paid for as well.

In any case, he wanted to visit me somewhere in August, just a friendly visit. He wanted to give food from an air-fryer a shot before buying one and I have one.
And he just liked to come & see me.
I consented.
But for me there's nothing more, I have no feelings for him.

Some time went by and then he said to visit again and go out to dinner.
So to me that's like "you made dinner last time, now I will return the favour."

Dinner was lovely, great food, conversation etc. also okay.
But he still isn't a good match concerning love for me.
Before we went to the restaurant he was fishing, said something in the vein that it was enough to like each other, that possibly more could come from that. Or that just liking each other was enough.
Well, not for me! And I made that clear as well.

I didn't give any sign that I was interested in more, or in sex.
Yet back at my place for a cup of coffee to end the day he suddenly asked if I wanted him to spend the night.
WTF???
NO!
It actually came out of the blue, took me by surprise.

Of course he didn't spend the night. He doesn't turn me on so even if I had wanted sex, it wouldn't have worked.

I've never believed in men & women being friends and I feel this proves my case.
There's always one who wants more. Unless one or both are gay.

I still don't know what made him think of asking that question.
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soufiehere

Fri 10/24/25 09:17 AM

It has been my experience that one always
wants more than the other one does.

I think human nature has its own agenda.

No attraction seems to lead to friendship.
Because often it is the only remaining choice.

One caveat..sometimes just hanging in through
the friendship can turn the situation
around..even though first impressions
are negative.

Most know..right away ;-)
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Don

Fri 10/24/25 10:46 AM

Did he get an air-fryer?
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motowndowntown

Fri 10/24/25 12:07 PM

Yes a man and a woman can have a platonic relationship.

But this guy obviously had something else in mind and just didn't want to give up trying.

Was thinking of buying an air fryer???

Phhhhfffft!!!!!!

That's a good line.

May try it out myself sometime.
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bobtail76

Fri 10/24/25 02:02 PM


2 years ago I had a date with a man from a dating site.
That didn't work out at all, we both felt that way.
I kinda expected it upfront and we just didn't really click.

Nevertheless we occasionally stayed in touch. Not necessarily as friends but because he was interested in a couple of my paintings, over time bought two of them.
And I did a reading for him, paid for as well.

In any case, he wanted to visit me somewhere in August, just a friendly visit. He wanted to give food from an air-fryer a shot before buying one and I have one.
And he just liked to come & see me.
I consented.
But for me there's nothing more, I have no feelings for him.

Some time went by and then he said to visit again and go out to dinner.
So to me that's like "you made dinner last time, now I will return the favour."

Dinner was lovely, great food, conversation etc. also okay.
But he still isn't a good match concerning love for me.
Before we went to the restaurant he was fishing, said something in the vein that it was enough to like each other, that possibly more could come from that. Or that just liking each other was enough.
Well, not for me! And I made that clear as well.

I didn't give any sign that I was interested in more, or in sex.
Yet back at my place for a cup of coffee to end the day he suddenly asked if I wanted him to spend the night.
WTF???
NO!
It actually came out of the blue, took me by surprise.

Of course he didn't spend the night. He doesn't turn me on so even if I had wanted sex, it wouldn't have worked.

I've never believed in men & women being friends and I feel this proves my case.
There's always one who wants more. Unless one or both are gay.

I still don't know what made him think of asking that question.


You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky

No, men and women cannot be platonic friends - unless it's like your buddy's ol lady or something. But that would include your buddy, which would just be an extension of the buddy. If a guy we're to go out with his buddy's ol lady without the friend - that is also a no-no.

There are several scenarios that exist in this dynamic - pick one and you'll have your answer.
Several even may apply:

1) either the man or the woman wants something other than platonic

2) man has been put in friend zone and has either the desperation or the time and patience to wait out that friend zone

3) woman keeps a man around, knowing his intentions - keeps him around for the endless supply of attention or validation

4) Either sex keeps the other around as a contingency plan

5) Woman keeps a man around to receive husband benefits - fixing cars, moving ****, etc

6) Man keeps woman around for puzzy shrapnel, either through her friends or being seen with said woman, around other women

My guess would be, because you stayed in touch, it didn't go as awful as you say. The fact you accepted another encounter under the guise of an air fryer, that would suggest for him to take that shot. I would say there's some culpability on your part.
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GravelRidgeBoy

Fri 10/24/25 07:17 PM

Yes, I feel that men and women can be just friends. But it sounds like he was playing a long game, friends first type of thing to win you over. If a man and woman are just friends, then both of them can not be attracted to the other at all.

I guess now the question is what are you going to do about this new "friend" who wanted more?
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sat 10/25/25 02:14 AM


Yes a man and a woman can have a platonic relationship.

But this guy obviously had something else in mind and just didn't want to give up trying.

Was thinking of buying an air fryer???

Phhhhfffft!!!!!!

That's a good line.

May try it out myself sometime.

Hahahaha, give it a shot. You never know, lol.

The full story was that he was initially going to come over with another man from the datingsite. They became bike-buddies.
They wanted to do a bike ride and visit me.

But the other one didn't come in the end as he has physical issues and the distance was too much for him.
And yes, he truly said that stuff about an airfryer.
I have no idea if he bought one in the end, never asked.

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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sat 10/25/25 02:23 AM


It has been my experience that one always
wants more than the other one does.

I think human nature has its own agenda.

No attraction seems to lead to friendship.
Because often it is the only remaining choice.

One caveat..sometimes just hanging in through
the friendship can turn the situation
around..even though first impressions
are negative.

Most know..right away ;-)

Agreed.
And I think he maybe intents to do just that: hanging in and wait for things to evolve regardless of the current situation.

He kept trying by the way. At least that's what I think it was:
Before leaving he had to change back into his biker clothes. Took him forever and he kept walking around in his boxers??
Me thinking, "WTF are you trying to achieve here?"
I think he was hoping I'd change my mind by walking around half naked? But if someone kind of tries to force something upon me, it puts me off even more than the original thought of being intimate with him did.
No matter what age, when a woman says "no" it still means "no" and doing what he did isn't respecting that.

Chemistry & connection is there or it isn't. You cannot forcefully create it.
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sat 10/25/25 02:24 AM


Did he get an air-fryer?

No idea. I never asked, haha.
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sat 10/25/25 02:26 AM


Yes, I feel that men and women can be just friends. But it sounds like he was playing a long game, friends first type of thing to win you over. If a man and woman are just friends, then both of them can not be attracted to the other at all.

I guess now the question is what are you going to do about this new "friend" who wanted more?

No idea. The only thing we've exchanged after this last encounter is saying we had a good time.
If he's going to suggest another visit at some point I will probably decline.
Because he clearly hopes for more and I absolutely don't.
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soufiehere

Sat 10/25/25 06:25 AM

... Took him forever and he kept walking around in his boxers??

This made me laugh ;-)
Men who do not know women very well always think
flashing the bod is going to help because
it helps them when it is a woman flashing
her assets;-)
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bobtail76

Sat 10/25/25 08:17 AM

That's very true Soufie.... but it must work.
I think SOME (not a lot) women go for that. That's why I think these morons that think sending women a dikk pic work, still do it. They must have had a bite or two doing that, which keeps them to using that tactic
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soufiehere

Sat 10/25/25 10:53 AM


That's very true Soufie.... but it must work.
I think SOME (not a lot) women go for that. That's why I think these morons that think sending women a dikk pic work, still do it. They must have had a bite or two doing that, which keeps them to using that tactic

Some piranhas will bite anything in their pond
if they are hungry enough ;-)
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Don

Sat 10/25/25 02:29 PM



Did he get an air-fryer?

No idea. I never asked, haha.

Would an air-fryer make him more desirable? I've got an air-fryer, a microwave and a george forman grill.
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Michael

Sat 10/25/25 07:46 PM

Over the years I have had a few women who were just friends. In those cases we both realized that our personalities were not a match. But, we have other common interest.

I'm pretty good at knowing who is interested and wanting to be in my friend zone. I terminate those pretty quickly.

I also have had women I don't know Email me or contact me. Those are the worst because they refuse to accept "no", and usually become stalkers.
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Don

Sun 10/26/25 01:19 AM

Hmm, a Hedgehog and a Terminator. Fill your boots, ladies, but don't forget to ask about their kitchen appliances. Oh, the Hedgehog (Sonikhan) has gone... probably to get an air-fryer.
Edited by Don on Sun 10/26/25 01:34 AM
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sun 10/26/25 02:45 AM


... Took him forever and he kept walking around in his boxers??

This made me laugh ;-)
Men who do not know women very well always think
flashing the bod is going to help because
it helps them when it is a woman flashing
her assets;-)

Good point, haha.
For me it only works if a man has a real good body and/or if I take an interest in him.

The latter isn't a must, I mean, when I see a man on the beach with a great body I sure as hell feast my eyes!
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sun 10/26/25 02:52 AM




Did he get an air-fryer?

No idea. I never asked, haha.

Would an air-fryer make him more desirable? I've got an air-fryer, a microwave and a george forman grill.

What could've made him more desirable is not being so fussy.
Being difficult about buying an air-fryer because you don't know it's good while it only costs about E70 isn't sexy. I mean, I got one and my income is much lower than his. It's not a major investment. You just read reviews online and go for it.

He was the same when wanting to buy a painting of me. He could easily afford it and really wanted it, but then still took 6 months to decide. Both times he bought a painting.
That kind of attitude isn't sexy.
Not to me anyways.
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sun 10/26/25 02:55 AM


Hmm, a Hedgehog and a Terminator. Fill your boots, ladies, but don't forget to ask about their kitchen appliances. Oh, the Hedgehog (Sonikhan) has gone... probably to get an air-fryer.

I take it you didn't read my OP and/or didn't understand.
HE was the fussy one about a kitchen appliance, not me.
So your "Ladies don't forget to ask about their kitchen appliances" doesn't make any sense.

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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sun 10/26/25 02:57 AM


Over the years I have had a few women who were just friends. In those cases we both realized that our personalities were not a match. But, we have other common interest.

I'm pretty good at knowing who is interested and wanting to be in my friend zone. I terminate those pretty quickly.

I also have had women I don't know Email me or contact me. Those are the worst because they refuse to accept "no", and usually become stalkers.

I think that's the best thing to do, terminate contact with people who do not get the message.