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laidbackhd

Fri 03/11/16 05:17 PM

Trump cancels rally in Chicago due to protesters against Trump and his supporters.
1. Trump did not create this chaos between Races in America.
2. He is for America, which has several races that are LEGAL Citizens.
3. He is like the majority of Americans is FED UP with the direction we have headed.
4. Americans will not back down from this point. We have had it.

Our Government created this BS by allowing many ethnecities into this country by sitting on their ***** and not doing a damn thing to follow our Constitutional laws, we the People suffer from their laziness, while they sit back and draw a hefty salary each year.
You younger generation better wake up and think and realize this Government is after your freedoms and your money.
Trump sees this, my generation sees this, White, Black, Asian, we see what is going on. You younger people have no clue of our constitution, our Bill of Rights, can't even name the 35th President, much less the 40th. America better wake up, get rid of the scum we have in this country very quick. I want to see comments regarding to my post.
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sybariticguy

Fri 03/11/16 05:30 PM


Trump cancels rally in Chicago due to protesters against Trump and his supporters.
1. Trump did not create this chaos between Races in America.
2. He is for America, which has several races that are LEGAL Citizens.
3. He is like the majority of Americans is FED UP with the direction we have headed.
4. Americans will not back down from this point. We have had it.

Our Government created this BS by allowing many ethnecities into this country by sitting on their ***** and not doing a damn thing to follow our Constitutional laws, we the People suffer from their laziness, while they sit back and draw a hefty salary each year.
You younger generation better wake up and think and realize this Government is after your freedoms and your money.
Trump sees this, my generation sees this, White, Black, Asian, we see what is going on. You younger people have no clue of our constitution, our Bill of Rights, can't even name the 35th President, much less the 40th. America better wake up, get rid of the scum we have in this country very quick. I want to see comments regarding to my post.
Over fifty per cent of the people in America receive some type of government assistance this is not tenable for long....
Edited by sybariticguy on Fri 03/11/16 05:31 PM
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SassyEuro2

Sat 03/12/16 01:39 AM

Woa.. You guys! Hhhaaa..! love it. happy

laidbackhd,

Kudos to you for bringing this up. It is a shame it can't be in an over 50-55 forum. Because we think different, from so much history & experience. ". And we are LESS P.C / brainwashed.

Change isn't always a good thing " & "Resistance to change isn't always a bad thing". And we know it. And oh yea baby.. We will say it.
Hhhaaa.. :banana:

Here is an example of what I see now:

Our generation thought in terms of survival & then success & (like our parents), & wanted our children to have a better/easier, "American life".

Today:

The generation that had far less struggle, has reproduced... Aacchh! Lol
And created a " Now, now, me, me, generation " of "entitlement thinking".
Long story short, spoiled brats that don't belong to their parents (too many have only a poor mother), & they belong to 'system'.

Too many temper tantrums to " Mommy & Daddy Government ".
They were NOT raised with 'American principals, law, priorities, responsibility & morals'. And they truly believe " Mommy government will take care of me & Daddy government knows best ". Which is of course " Un-American ".
They are ONLY thinking of themselves & NOT the country as a whole or the future (as we were taught).
They don't grasp what independence is & they are willing to give up virtually anything (freedom, rights, privileges), to be 'taken care of'.

Which makes them (voluntarily), modern day globalist slaves. And don't even know it. * or care *
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SassyEuro2

Sat 03/12/16 01:43 AM

laidbackhd

The 'disruption' over Trump (That is putting it too nicely). Even the media is saying, 'canceled because of security concerns'.
Do they think the whole country is stupid? It wasn't cancelled because of security concerns, it was canceled because Black - America is panicking & having a hissy fit.

It is pointless to say 'minority protesters' got out of hand. Because that is not what happened. Natives, Asian & Hispanic Americans aren't freaking out & trying to stop Trump or trying to get INTENTIONALLY arrested, so they can scream 'racism' & 'social injustice'... Blah blah blah.. All the 'Key' words for future chaos & subsequent bondage.
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SassyEuro2

Sat 03/12/16 01:42 AM

sybariticguy quote

"Over fifty per cent of the people in America receive some type of government assistance this is not tenable for long.... "

Last I heard it was in the 40's. But that was a long time ago. You may be right!
I also agree we can't sustain this.

I think it was set up to fail.
(But that may be me going off topic.)
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Conrad_73

Sat 03/12/16 02:14 AM

ain't gonna be pretty!
Here,in early June,we have to Vote on a Referendum about on an Unconditional Basic Income!
They have collected enough Signatures for it to be put on the Ballot!

Basic income referendum

The discussion about basic income in Switzerland began in the 1980s, initially amongst academics such as sociologists who saw the potential to alleviate poverty better than the current system. But there was no major public debate in the 1980s nor the 1990s. In the early 2000s, however, things were slowly changing due to a spill-over from the German debate. Two basic income organizations were formed, "Initiative Grundeinkommen" and BIEN-Switzerland, and one Attac-group also became advocates. These organizations had some success, including some articles in national newspapers.[7] The petition calling for a referendum on basic income as a constitutional right was started in April 2012. After six months 42,000 people had signed, and by April 2013 there were approximately 70,000 signatures.[8] By October 2013 more than 130,000 citizens had signed, meaning a referendum on the issue had to be held. Publicity included a truck filled with eight million coins emptying the money in front of the Federal Palace in Bern.[9] Even though the initiative official text submitted to the vote does not specify any level, the campaigners have proposed is 2,500 Swiss francs for adults (about 1,650 USD at PPP in 2014) and 625 francs for children per month.[10][9][11]


gonna be real farking fun,and might even succeed!sick ill

http://thesnarkwhohuntsback.wordpress.com/favorite-passages-from-atlas-shrugged/the-story-of-the-twentieth-century-motor-company-atlas-shrugged-part-ii/

yeah,we have our Bernies and Hillarys too!

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SassyEuro2

Sat 03/12/16 02:40 AM

http://thesnarkwhohuntsback.wordpress.com/favorite-passages-from-atlas-shrugged/the-story-of-the-twentieth-century-motor-company-atlas-shrugged-part-ii/

yeah,we have our Bernies and Hillarys too!

OMG! slaphead

"The plan was that everybody in the factory would work according to his ability, but would be paid according to his need.

“We voted for that plan at a big meeting, with all of us present, six thousand of us, everybody that worked in the factory. The Starnes heirs made long speeches about it, and it wasn’t too clear, but nobody asked any questions. None of us knew just how the plan would work, but every one of us thought that the next fellow knew it. And if anybody had doubts, he felt guilty and kept his mouth shut – because they made it sound like anyone who’d oppose the plan was a child-killer at heart and less than a human being. They told us that this plan would achieve a noble ideal. Well, how were we to know otherwise? Hadn’t we heard it all our lives – from our parents and our schoolteachers and our ministers, and in every newspaper we ever read and every movie and every public speech? Hadn’t we always been told that this was righteous and just? Well, maybe there’s some excuse for what we did at that meeting. Still, we voted for the plan – and what we got, we had it coming to us. You know, ma’am, we are marked men, in a way, those of us who lived through the four years of that plan in the Twentieth Century factory. What is it that hell is supposed to be? Evil – plain, naked, smirking evil, isn’t it? Well, that’s what we saw and helped to make – and I think we’re damned, every one of us, and maybe we’ll never be forgiven …"
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msharmony

Sat 03/12/16 09:14 AM


Trump cancels rally in Chicago due to protesters against Trump and his supporters.
1. Trump did not create this chaos between Races in America.
2. He is for America, which has several races that are LEGAL Citizens.
3. He is like the majority of Americans is FED UP with the direction we have headed.
4. Americans will not back down from this point. We have had it.

Our Government created this BS by allowing many ethnecities into this country by sitting on their ***** and not doing a damn thing to follow our Constitutional laws, we the People suffer from their laziness, while they sit back and draw a hefty salary each year.
You younger generation better wake up and think and realize this Government is after your freedoms and your money.
Trump sees this, my generation sees this, White, Black, Asian, we see what is going on. You younger people have no clue of our constitution, our Bill of Rights, can't even name the 35th President, much less the 40th. America better wake up, get rid of the scum we have in this country very quick. I want to see comments regarding to my post.


1. trump didn't create it but he sure is benefitting from using it,and promoting it

2.Trump is for Trump, notoriety, and money. I don't see evidence that he cares one way or another about 'americans' as a whole unless they are willing to stroke his ego or make him more money

3. HE is NOT like the majority of ameicans, the majority of americans couldn't successfully lead a presidential race by insulting a different group or person every time he speaks, the majority of americans couldnt file several bankruptcies and still be considered GREAT business persons, and the majority of americans weren't born in the top 5 percent and remained there.


4.Americans are hundreds of millions of individuals who all draw their own conclusions from their own personal experiences and those of the people they love,, and once we get older and 'wiser' its very hard to get us to 'back down' from whatever we have become 'fed up' of, whatever that happens to be.


but then he is mostly a glorifed sales man , risen to history worthy narcissism by theunending privilege and wealth he was born into

and he has sold a line that many enjoy hearing about how the problem is everyone else but them and they need 'their america' back


lol


I'm fed up of people buying the bunk that multiethnicity is the same as laziness and the basis for all Americas problems
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IgorFrankensteen

Sat 03/12/16 09:27 AM


Trump cancels rally in Chicago due to protesters against Trump and his supporters.
1. Trump did not create this chaos between Races in America.
2. He is for America, which has several races that are LEGAL Citizens.
3. He is like the majority of Americans is FED UP with the direction we have headed.
4. Americans will not back down from this point. We have had it.

Our Government created this BS by allowing many ethnecities into this country by sitting on their ***** and not doing a damn thing to follow our Constitutional laws, we the People suffer from their laziness, while they sit back and draw a hefty salary each year.
You younger generation better wake up and think and realize this Government is after your freedoms and your money.
Trump sees this, my generation sees this, White, Black, Asian, we see what is going on. You younger people have no clue of our constitution, our Bill of Rights, can't even name the 35th President, much less the 40th. America better wake up, get rid of the scum we have in this country very quick. I want to see comments regarding to my post.


Your post mostly makes no sense, and has almost no factual basis.

1. This is correct. Trump didn't cause the history of the United States, like the rest of us, he is the result of it.

2. I don't even know what you imagine this means. Several races of legal citizens? No racial distinctions are made whatsoever, in deciding your American citizenship. This point is therefore nonsense.

3. Trump is fed up? Maybe. But as we saw when the Tea Party decided to try to go from being a movement to an official political party, being "fed up" doesn't mean all the angry people are on the same side of any issue. Excusing rioting on the grounds that you hate some of the people being victimized by the rioting, makes you an opponent to the rule of law, and to the most basic component of American conservatism, which is personal responsibility for your choices and actions.

4. Not really anything said in this "point." Americans not backing down, when they can't agree on anything other than being angry and willing to attack other Americans violently, isn't on my list of "Good Things."

As for these early reports about the mess in Chicago, all I notice is that Trump rally people in some places appear to be increasingly opposed to the idea of obeying either the letter or the spirit of the Constitution in any way shape or form.

And that doesn't bode well for any conservative.
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sat 03/12/16 09:28 AM
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SassyEuro2

Sat 03/12/16 09:55 AM

Trump is for Trump, notoriety, and money. I don't see evidence that he cares one way or another about 'americans' as a whole unless they are willing to stroke his ego or make him more money


You want to roll around naked in Poppy's green...don't cha ? :wink:


You mention his money in also every post. So what? All Americans Presidents were rich. All the candidates are rich & they always will be.
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msharmony

Sat 03/12/16 10:20 AM

no. all presidents haven't been BILLIONAIRES


and haven't all been born into wealth either

and haven't all gone into their wealthy family's already established business


the man acts too much like a classless oaf, no amount of money changes that and its more of a personal turnoff to me than anything else



I mention his wealth because it is the WHOLE appeal of the man, and the only thing impressive


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Rock

Sat 03/12/16 10:36 AM

:laughing: @ the nonsensical circular liberal "logic".
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Conrad_73

Sat 03/12/16 10:50 AM

Is Trump Responsible for Violence Against Him?
Posted on March 12, 2016

Donald Trump was forced to cancel a rally in Chicago due to threats of violence. Apparently, even the police were afraid.

Black Lives Matter, a group which openly supports violence to attain its goals of socialism, cheers the shutdown.

They tweeted such comments as, “Way to go Chicago! Someone finally shutdown a Trump rally!” And: “It is time for a new movement. We must focus our attention to shut down Trump #ShutDownTrump #BlackLivesMatter.”

Ted Cruz said Friday that Donald Trump was right to cancel his Chicago rally out of public safety concerns but that the front-runner “bears responsibility for creating an environment when the candidate urges supporters to engage in physical violence to punch people in the face.”

“The predictable consequence of that is it escalates,” he told reporters outside a hotel in Rolling Meadows, Ill., in suburban Chicago. “Today is unlikely to be the last such instance.”

Is Cruz right? Is Donald Trump responsible for the violence of those who oppose him? If so, it’s a shocking and chilling idea.

Black Lives Matter is an organization of intimidation. It openly advocates violence to achieve its ends. That’s not true of Donald Trump, any more than it’s true of Ted Cruz. Trump supports things like building a wall on the Mexican border, restricting immigration, lowering the corporate tax, shutting down the Department of Education, providing medical care for all, and imposing tariffs to restrict trade with China.

I agree with Trump on some things, and disagree with him on many more things. But it’s dead wrong to suggest that merely by proposing controversial things, he brings this violence on himself.

Cruz suggests that Donald Trump shouldn’t have said things like, “I’d like to punch that protester in the face” at a rally where a violent person appeared. Maybe that’s true, or maybe it’s not. It’s arguably refreshing to hear someone speak so honestly and candidly. There’s so much phoniness and political correctness amok in today’s society, where we let terrorizing bullies shoot up Christmas parties and chop off the heads of non-believing infidels, without really holding them accountable, that many people are angry and frustrated. You can argue whether Trump used the best judgment in saying this. However, to imply that Trump creates violence merely for saying controversial or upsetting things is another story.

Cruz is making Hillary Clinton’s case for her. Progressives and liberals are intolerant of dissension. Remember, they call it “hate speech” when you disagree with Obamacare, or Obama using executive orders to rewrite laws without Congress. That’s what Black Lives Matter is all about: intimidation against dissenting opinion. It’s not about individual rights, and it’s not even about black lives. It’s about imposing violence and intimidation to advance a particular leftist, socialist, wealth redistribution, collectivist point-of-view.

It’s nothing new. Leftists (and many Republicans) have been doing the things Black Lives Matter supports for decades. America is trillions of dollars in debt, thanks primarily to the wealth redistribution and social spending groups like Black Lives Matter demand. When these policies don’t make things better, and in fact make things worse, they choose to complain, scream and promote violence in retaliation for the fact that reality will not submit to their emotions. Somebody should punch people like this in the nose, when they become violent, or disrupt a private meeting or assembly.

Cruz is right about many things, and he’s also right to point out that Trump has flaws. But to imply, like leftists do, that Trump brings violence on himself by taking the positions he does is a very wrong thing to do. Even if Donald Trump is a bully, he’s not responsible for the bullying tactics Black Lives Matter wage against anyone who disagrees with them – including Ted Cruz himself, should he eventually make it to the front-runner status for the Republican nomination.

I used to think that freedom of speech would die in America in the midst of an economic crisis. We’re not in an economic crisis at the moment, at least not an obvious one like 2007 and 2008. However, the economy is in decline. It’s stagnating. The middle class is shrinking and while the wealthy get the blame, we don’t have enough wealthy people to invest in and grow the economy, like we would in a truly capitalist, free market system. We’re taxing and regulating both the wealthy and the struggling into oblivion. Millions of blacks (and others) are trapped in the welfare state because we do not have the self-responsibility and self-interest fostered by economic freedom. Groups like Black Lives Matter exploit this frustration and stagnation by intimidating people into staying home and staying quiet. That’s how you set the psychological stage for censorship.

To say anybody “bears responsibility for creating an environment” where free speech or free assembly is hampered simply by holding controversial positions is, in itself, a basis for restricting free speech. Unintentionally or not, that’s what Ted Cruz has done with his remarks. As for Black Lives Matter, they are gleeful that they have frightened even the Chicago police into relenting. Their central goal is to inspire anarchy, not because they hate government, but because they want their whims and attitudes to dominate others and rule.

You don’t have to like Donald Trump, or his positions, to be uspet about what’s happening to freedom of speech and association in America. The psychological atmosphere we’re creating is one where dissenting opinion is squelched. The whole reason some people don’t want to see Donald Trump become president is they fear he will become a fascist dictator. By allowing organized thugs like Black Lives Matter to determine when and where voters may freely assemble, aren’t we already there?

https://drhurd.com/2016/03/12/58429/
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msharmony

Sat 03/12/16 10:52 AM

hard to read past the first blatant and biased lie


"Black Lives Matter, a group which openly supports violence to attain its goals of socialism, cheers the shutdown. "

there are people who support blm and post on social media, hats not representative of the whole group, and cheering a shutdown isn't the same as advocating for violence

and this:
"Black Lives Matter is an organization of intimidation. It openly advocates violence to achieve its ends. That’s not true of Donald Trump"




seriously?


When a protester interrupted his speech at a rally in Michigan, he encouraged his audience members to force the protester out.“Get him out,” Mr. Trump said, CBS reported. “Try not to hurt him. If you do, I’ll defend you in court.”


a black man, reportedly started chanting Black Lives Matter at a rally in Birmingham, Alabama on Saturday. In a video captured by CNN reporter Jeremy Diamond, rally attendees swarm around the man, kicking and punching him as he curls up on the ground. Trump was asked to weigh in on his supporters’ actions on Fox & Friends Sunday morning. “Maybe he should have been roughed up,” he said. “It was disgusting what he was doing.”



Two men in Boston said they ambushed and brutally beat a homeless Latino man because they were “inspired” by Trump, who later explained his supporters “are very passionate” and “love this country.”


he doesn't advocate for violence though huh?





jeesh, what are people smoking?





Edited by msharmony on Sat 03/12/16 11:02 AM
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mightymoe

Sat 03/12/16 11:35 AM


hard to read past the first blatant and biased lie


"Black Lives Matter, a group which openly supports violence to attain its goals of socialism, cheers the shutdown. "

there are people who support blm and post on social media, hats not representative of the whole group, and cheering a shutdown isn't the same as advocating for violence

and this:
"Black Lives Matter is an organization of intimidation. It openly advocates violence to achieve its ends. That’s not true of Donald Trump"




seriously?


When a protester interrupted his speech at a rally in Michigan, he encouraged his audience members to force the protester out.“Get him out,” Mr. Trump said, CBS reported. “Try not to hurt him. If you do, I’ll defend you in court.”


a black man, reportedly started chanting Black Lives Matter at a rally in Birmingham, Alabama on Saturday. In a video captured by CNN reporter Jeremy Diamond, rally attendees swarm around the man, kicking and punching him as he curls up on the ground. Trump was asked to weigh in on his supporters’ actions on Fox & Friends Sunday morning. “Maybe he should have been roughed up,” he said. “It was disgusting what he was doing.”



Two men in Boston said they ambushed and brutally beat a homeless Latino man because they were “inspired” by Trump, who later explained his supporters “are very passionate” and “love this country.”


he doesn't advocate for violence though huh?





jeesh, what are people smoking?








whats not true?
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msharmony

Sat 03/12/16 11:39 AM

that BLM is a 'group' which openly advocates violence

as explained earlier, there are INDIVIDUALS who support the group and post to social media that doesn't reflect what the 'group' advocates, but what individuals that support the group do

just like some trump supporters beating the crap out of an immigrant doesn't mean that trumps campaign endorses such behavior, he would actually have to say he was cool with it(Which he did) ,,,but that's another topic

the founders of the movement have at no time advocated for violence as a means to an ends
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Rock

Sat 03/12/16 11:56 AM

BLM is a violent racist group.
It's a reputation they've strived for.
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Conrad_73

Sat 03/12/16 12:12 PM


hard to read past the first blatant and biased lie


"Black Lives Matter, a group which openly supports violence to attain its goals of socialism, cheers the shutdown. "

there are people who support blm and post on social media, hats not representative of the whole group, and cheering a shutdown isn't the same as advocating for violence

and this:
"Black Lives Matter is an organization of intimidation. It openly advocates violence to achieve its ends. That’s not true of Donald Trump"




seriously?


When a protester interrupted his speech at a rally in Michigan, he encouraged his audience members to force the protester out.“Get him out,” Mr. Trump said, CBS reported. “Try not to hurt him. If you do, I’ll defend you in court.”


a black man, reportedly started chanting Black Lives Matter at a rally in Birmingham, Alabama on Saturday. In a video captured by CNN reporter Jeremy Diamond, rally attendees swarm around the man, kicking and punching him as he curls up on the ground. Trump was asked to weigh in on his supporters’ actions on Fox & Friends Sunday morning. “Maybe he should have been roughed up,” he said. “It was disgusting what he was doing.”



Two men in Boston said they ambushed and brutally beat a homeless Latino man because they were “inspired” by Trump, who later explained his supporters “are very passionate” and “love this country.”


he doesn't advocate for violence though huh?





jeesh, what are people smoking?






we are talking about violent BLM,organized Violence,not some disconnected Kooks!
Spin it all you want,doesn't change the Facts!

Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 03/12/16 12:18 PM
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msharmony

Sat 03/12/16 12:21 PM


BLM is a violent racist group.
It's a reputation they've strived for.




NOT
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msharmony

Sat 03/12/16 12:23 PM



hard to read past the first blatant and biased lie


"Black Lives Matter, a group which openly supports violence to attain its goals of socialism, cheers the shutdown. "

there are people who support blm and post on social media, hats not representative of the whole group, and cheering a shutdown isn't the same as advocating for violence

and this:
"Black Lives Matter is an organization of intimidation. It openly advocates violence to achieve its ends. That’s not true of Donald Trump"




seriously?


When a protester interrupted his speech at a rally in Michigan, he encouraged his audience members to force the protester out.“Get him out,” Mr. Trump said, CBS reported. “Try not to hurt him. If you do, I’ll defend you in court.”


a black man, reportedly started chanting Black Lives Matter at a rally in Birmingham, Alabama on Saturday. In a video captured by CNN reporter Jeremy Diamond, rally attendees swarm around the man, kicking and punching him as he curls up on the ground. Trump was asked to weigh in on his supporters’ actions on Fox & Friends Sunday morning. “Maybe he should have been roughed up,” he said. “It was disgusting what he was doing.”



Two men in Boston said they ambushed and brutally beat a homeless Latino man because they were “inspired” by Trump, who later explained his supporters “are very passionate” and “love this country.”


he doesn't advocate for violence though huh?





jeesh, what are people smoking?






we are talking about violent BLM,organized Violence,not some disconnected Kooks!
Spin it all you want,doesn't change the Facts!




yet you introduced the tangent,,, and I responded to the ridiculousness of claiming that Trump is devoid of responsibility for encouraging and supporting violence