uh huh...


All the azzholes you're defending Chocolate... are indeed azzholes and criminals. Packing heat at a peaceful protest is not a proper way of governing yourself.

When you find yourself in a deep hole, stop digging ffs, it's getting ridiculous really. Anyways, it's getting worse and you're not helping, cheers!

Its a little thing called bail. If he was denied it, you'd be complaining that his constitutional rights were violated.


"" FERGUSON, MO (KTVI) – Tyrone Harris, Jr.
showed off guns on Facebook, was out on
bond for other felony charges.

We`ve confirmed with police sources, the
Facebook page of Tyrone Harris. He calls
himself TY Glocks. He`s posted dozens of
pictures with him holding guns, often posting
them with the #pistolgang . His last post was
about an hour before the shooting. It said “I
(expletive) around go on West Florissant
tonight.”

According to court records, suspect Tyrone
Harris, Jr. was arrested in November 2014 for
having a stolen 9 mm. A probable cause
statement said police pursued Harris after he
was speeding in a stolen car down a one way
street. Police reported throwing down stop
sticks, then arresting him. Officers say he
admitted to stealing the car and gun.""
http://fox2now.com/2015/08/10/tyrone-harris-jr-showed-off-guns-on-facebook-was-out-on-bond-for-other-felony-charges/

All of this has been reported and posted about NUMEROUS times. Find another horse to bet on....this one is headed to the glue factory.

Tyrone Harris Sr. told The Associated Press Wednesday that the family's lawyer has advised him to not discuss the Sunday night shooting that left Tyrone Harris Jr. in critical condition.

Harris declined to identify the attorney. His son was charged Monday with 10 felonies.

____________________________________________________________________
From the medical journal:

Lock jaw:
The inability to suddenly talk, leaving the patient speechless.

Causes:
Video surveillance tapes

I hope the Harris family and the black community get well soon.

Black people involved in the. 3. shootings:

Civilian shootout: so far 1

Alleged exchange between 4 'Detectives' and 1 civilian: so far 2
One was an innocent bystander
Still waiting for any footage from the 5 or more cameras
Still waiting for word of any injury to the 'detectives'
Still waiting for footage from any of the massive police presence perhaps showing the suspect running away with said stolen gun

Civilians charged with gun related crimes: so far 1

Person(s) of interest named or wanted for questioning in the shootings: other than the suspect: 0

WHERE IS THE FIRST SHOOTER?

Questioning and defending are 2 different words.
I have no problems with stop and frisk. Y'all do.

# of black peaceful protesters (not including those mentioned above) : __,____? Fill in the blank
# of white peaceful protesters :_,___ fill in the blank
# of whites arrested for peaceful civil disobedience __ fill in the blank
# of black and other races arrested for civil disobedience __ fill in the blank
# of people arrested for other reasons there at the protest (not mentioned above)___?????????

germanchocolate1981,

Please tell me what your are referring to & where I can find the article, social media post (f@cbook, Tw@tter, etc.. ) or video or live stream ? Thanks.

GC 1981

Are you having trouble with your internet. Do you not have access to everything that has been posted here as of yet?

Because your statements are making you out to be clueless.. and frankly you are embarrassing yourself. but here's one more

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/he-was-pulling-it-together-and-then-this-happened/2015/08/10/660a215e-3f99-11e5-9561-4b3dc93e3b9a_story.htm

Read his girlfriends account... she was with him..

They went down there
he was carrying a gun
they were with a gang trying to sell a STOLEN T.V.
A rival GANG pull out guns and started firing
He pulled out his gun ( as seen in the video
He started to run
A unmarked police SUV WITH THIER LIGHTS FLASHING APPROACHED
He turned and opened fire on the police car hitting the windshield and grill

the Cops RETURNED fire


This entire thing started with criminals looting and then trying to sell their bounty ( under the pretense of a orderly protest)

Then the shoot out occurred. BLACK ON BLACK SHOOTOUT

And you ARE defending this. And you are blaming police and others for this criminals actions. And you are totally ignoring the root cause. BLACK ON BLACK CRIME. And you are deflecting responsibility of these criminals families to society.

1ST SHOOTER?.. WHO GIVE A F***, That piece of trash will meet his destiny as well.

Black on black crime.... when is the black community actually going to do something about this... it is really out of hand... and it is really a black issue... it has nothing to do with cops or white people.

Where are your activist now.. your leaders.. where are they when blacks are killing blacks...where?????????????

not one friggin word from them... not one..

please define 'out of hand'

and doesnt the justice system do something about 'black on black' crime already(as it should) ,,,,?


is it still unclear the difference between criminals killing citizens and those in places of authority and being PAID to 'protect and serve killing citizens?

Actually the justice system doesn't really. Especially being that the majority of young African American males die at the hands of another African American.

out of hand is when I turn on the morning news every day and 8 out of the 10 people ( sometimes higher then that) the police are searching for, for violent crimes committed overnight are... black. And their victims...black

Ant this gets played out in every urban and semi urban area of the U.S... that is how I define out of hand.

Watch 2 weeks of any NYC, Baltimore, Chicago or any other city or semi city news cast and you tell me who is committing the crimes.

Prove me wrong

The justice system?

That's part of the big problem.. too many of your children are finding their way into the justice system because of crime.. violent crime.. lead by black on black crime.

The family fiber is fractured and these kids have no role model when they are very young.. in the moral forming years, especially the boys.

The justice system was designed for penalty and punishment It was not designed to raise your kids...but that is what it is doing

On top of that your black activists and so called leaders are no shows.. when needed most.

Don't blame whitey, society or the cops for what you grew.

justice deals with rectification AFTER a crime,, not with eradicating it all together


and the justice system certainly doles out 'justice' to black males, whether they smoke a joint or kill another person,,,

the problem is with your news then, local news will mostly reflect the population you live in

in a WHITE community, the local news is much more likely to have stories about WHITES killing whites,, but that doesnt mean its 'out of hand'


and national news has the choice of which stories to cover, so those 8 or 10 you see is because the news CHOSE to show them,,, not because there werent plenty of others they could have shown with white people,,,



our kids enter the justice system for much more menial offenses than killing, but they enter younger, and once in, it naturally becomes much easier for them to escalate

the family fractured? yes,


black leaders? they do plenty but not alot that many non blacks would know about as they tend to do it amongst blacks and in black communities,,, and they are individuals who cant change the system alone but need cooperation and participation to do so



but that has nothing to do with the POLICE dispensing justice without racial blinders when reacting,,,


I dont play the blame game, but there is plenty of RESPONSIBILITY to go around

its foolish to deny the responsibility of the system and society just because there exists responsibility of the family,,,

No., there is nothing wrong with our news stations ( channel 2,4 7 11).. the faces of the wanted criminals do not change when you change the channel

And NYC IS a predominantly WHITE town with 44% white. 25% are black. But those 25% black account for 90% of the violent crimes. With the overwhelming majority being black on black

Check any NYC crime stat.. or better yet, just watch the news ;)


This gets played out in and urban or semi urban area. Areas such as Ferguson, Mo. where the black population is the majority, black on black crime is astronomical

Regarding the family structure. 72% of black kids are raised by a single parent. And that is because black men have no problem fathering kids.. but they do have a big problem when it comes to raising or supporting them. Thus their own terminology. ( Baby Daddy, brother from another mother, ect)

Blacks account for 12% of the total population but account for 32% of the people on welfare. Why... see above...Daddy ain't supporting his kids.

poverty, No doubt there is poverty. Which is added to when people who can not support and raise kids.. have kids... and then more kids.


I would think these areas would be a ideal start for your so called leaders

family structure is a misleading phrase for what you describe...

because people aren't married(definition of single parent) does not mean both parents aren't involved in the child's life

I should Know, I was a single parent with my first child and his father did more in his life than my now HUSBAND does in his daughters

but, yes, there are too many broken homes (not nearly as many as the 'single parent' stats imply)


and there are many reasons why blacks make up such a large portion on welfare,,,beyond 'daddy',,,, which are historical in nature and directly tied to socioeconomic status that was engrained into the system as well

our leaders do address these things and so does society REPEATEDLY

what needs to catch up, is addressing the part the SYSTEM those in authority over others lives,,,play

The number stand for themselves and are well documented

And I beg to differ

What needs to catch up is the black community taking responsibility for their actions and their personal decisions. And for them to stop blaming others and society for their choices. Be it crime, drugs or starting a family

Here's another one for the stats

abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-nyc-firefighter-shot...

This guy was a 34 year old gangbanger. Arrested for homicide at 17 then arrested 15 more times after that.

So the cops come after him on a warrant, he sets a fire in the house, the firemen come... and he shoots the firemen.

The cops go as far as to send a helicopter down to Delaware to get his mother.. to try to talk some sense into this guy.. she comes.. but no good. He comes out shooting (AK 47) and he is now dead.

But in the stat books. Cops shoot and kill black man.

This is the minority 25% at work up in NYC.

noone lives in a vaccuum,,,

when people speak of things being 'out of hand' the context is as important as the 'choice'

people in the street could be cleaner, there are bathhouses and shelters where they could wash, so people could just bum on them being 'out of han' in their higher than average odds of being unclean

yes, their uncleanliness is a choice too,, isnt it?

but it would be asinine to make it a personal character attack on them that doesnt even consider their SITUATION

comparing them to people who have jobs and homes and manage to stay clean is intellectually neglectful

so is comparing a PEOPLE/DEMOGRAPHIC who have been systematically disenfranchised and segregated for the MAJORITY of americas history to those for whom america was BUILT to propel/sustain and help prosper,,,

in a nutshell



we are all affected by our environments and our experiences and our history, 'choice' or not




so , back to the point , when people are KILLED, the killer should be held responsible and have something more than just feeling 'threatened' to justify it when a 'threat' when one is a young black man can occur merely by looking at someone the wrong way

and when people take someones life,, the 'responsibility' isnt about parenting or anything else,, that person had the 'choice' to kill or not,,yes?

wrong again, there are few 'stats' kept on who and how many cops kill, actually


this example is one that is outside of the many that people are fighting to change,,,,

we are all affected by our environments and our experiences and our history, 'choice' or not

History has nothing to do with selling drugs, carrying illegal weapons, violent crimes. Those are all personal choices. They are experiences that the person CREATES. Thus a choice. Every nationality has history. Used to learn from. History is the past and not something to be used as a excuse for your choices or to be used to blame others for deeds that you in fact control.


Your environment does not force you to father children (nothing does) and not raise or support them. That is personal choice, not mandated by physical surroundings.

Nobody is forced to do those things. Nobody puts a gun in your hand, drugs in your pocket, the stolen merchandise in your arms. They chose to do those things.

And thus, are responsible for their own actions... and in making their OWN HISTORY.

everything is a 'choice',, noone debates that

but some 'choices' are the result of duress and desperation, which are results of the environment


so, like I said, its a choice if a wealthy man steals some microwave meals, as much as it is a choice if a poor and starving man does

however, the former has less 'character' because there really is no obstacle to him purchasing the meal,,, unlike the latter


your environment doesn't FORCE but it has GREAT INFLUENCE,, we are born innocent, we LEARN from the examples around us and from our environment

a child raised where people are cursing and getting high is much more likely to consider that therefore what is 'normal' and to repeat that behavior ,, and pass down that 'normal' to their kids,, etc,,etc,,



you cant make your own HISTORY, that makes no sense

you can work on your future,, but history has already happened,,,

your environment doesn't FORCE but it has GREAT INFLUENCE,, we are born innocent, we LEARN from the examples around us and from our environment

a child raised where people are cursing and getting high is much more likely to consider that therefore what is 'normal' and to repeat that behavior ,, and pass down that 'normal' to their kids,, etc,,etc,,


that's right... that's why parent are supposed teach their kids right from wrong. Which is sorely lacking in the black community, thus their social issues. Because frankly, the parents are doing wrong in the first place.

But your words are consistent with your agenda.