Sorry, I didn't see your post.
I am not sure what you are asking?
What problem.. to me?
Helpful to me?

I was being sarcastic, in my last post.
So was the person, I was responding to.

when you say generations,, are you referring to a whole family living their whole lifes without jobs?

or are you just referring to someone in each generation having had to rely on welfare for some period of their lives?

because,, lifetime welfare, is a very rare animal since clinton

people needing help will never be extinct

yes, he did get people in place, though I haven researched the number


what have YOU done in those communities to help curb crime?


,,,,thought not

that's amazing and commendable, and still has not stopped crime in the neighborhoods being referenced here



anymore than Farrakhan or any other person can

nothing is going to stop crime overnight, crimes will evolve based upon social values and needs

we can only make an impact,, which NOI and FOI does,,,,


because they are FROM Those neighborhoods, and in those neighborhoods with a historical relationship of trust,, that probably those who would be too scared do not have

I have had to use welfare several times in my life...I am far from lazy and have always worked full time..the town I live in is awful..the wages don't work with the cost to live here...they recently cut all single without children off..job or not..and now they started making people who receive cash to do the work program..volunteer work 25 to 30 hours a week for 149.00 a month...rent assistance takes almost two years to get..the landlords rape the program by charging outrageous amounts..a one bedroom place here is around 750.00 a month..section 8 pays 450 per bedroom..to the landlord..they claim walk in closets as rooms...it's disgusting that the wealthy abuse the programs..poor people have no say on what rent costs..if you earn even 20 dollars more in a month you lose your benefits..I think welfare is important for those of us who really need it..but once your on it they make it almost impossible to get off it..our minimum wage is just over 8 an hour..we have very few places that offer full time work..I don't have a solution though...better jobs would be a start...

Just out of curiosity, what does that have to to with the topic of welfare?

Simple question without the intentions of receiving a rude reply in return. No need to read any thread history. I'm NOT THAT BORED. But thank you for the suggestion though.

I don't have much freedom to move about being a single mom and all,, I work and instill solid values in my children at home

I commend people for doing what they can do,, rather than focus on what else they didn't do,,,

kind of the point

these men are trying to make a difference, and they have been participating and recruiting in the areas where they live and have lived

recruit: to attempt to enroll or enlist


there are two means by which it done

one is through nation of islam members and fruit of islam members who are already in these communities

and the other is through community organized groups , inspired by these men, to accept volunteers who live in the community and are willing to undergo training in de-escalation and community relations

well, keep thinking

and I do have a talent for writing,, thanx for noticing

I hope to do it full time , for pay, eventually

as it is one thing that doesnt require me to leave my child,,,




but no spin in the facts


even when they dont match the divisive popular narrative


people of all races and from all groups care about crime and have those who take time and initiative to do something about it

even if they are a designated 'enemy',, according to media

I do suggest you check your facts,,, mid august was actually 9 months ago

and there have been men answering the call


just cause the press doesn't give it national press,, doesn't mean its not happening

the call was put out to 'volunteer',,, so there are no 'troops', but people who are interested in helping in their communities


I'm sure we know all about exactly how 'successful' these startup efforts should be and how fast,,


but the facts are these


The New Orleans Peacekeepers have been very successful in resolving conflicts in their city and are responsible for squashing nearly 30 beefs to date. Following the October 10 “Justice Or Else!” gathering in Washington, D.C., Willie Muhammad and Jesse Muhammad teamed up to assist other cities in developing their own Conflict Resolution Centers by organizing a telephone conference. As a result, 38 cities, including Atlanta, Houston, Memphis, Milwaukee, and Baltimore expressed interest in establishing a CRC. Eleven of those cities have already formed their mediation team, which has resulted in nine successful mediations.



http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/article_103053.shtml

that's
38 cities which have inquired where to start the process and 11 have begun

I can't offer too much input to the wonderful and insightful comments made, but...the welfare system exists for a reason, and sadly we don't have the means (yet) to monitor how money is spent by every low-income family in the United States. It does anger me when I see a woman at a grocery store put down $200 worth of food stamps, then drive away in a Cadillac SLS.

The welfare system is broken in this country. I say the only way to really fix it - is to restart it completely. Have everyone lose than re-apply for their welfare, and this time on a case-by-case basis.

I'll bet anything a LOT of people won't re-apply. =)

wow,,,just refuse to give any credit where its due,, when it comes to some people huh?


and sexual values are also one part of teen birth rates,, other parts include attitudes towards birth control and abortions, which prevent teen birth having nothing to do with how much sex teens have


and a

how is mediating violence not 'on the ground', but coaching sports is doing something?


I have no heroes because not one human is without their failings and skeletons,, NOT ONE

but I do give credit where it is due, truth is truth whoever speaks it

the NOI is out there EVERYDAY in these neighborhoods, because I have been in them and I have seen them but the joy of looking down on others will prevent some people from ever being able to believe it




and yes, violence ( which is mostly intraracial in every race) is multifaceted,, from the home, to the environment, to the subcultures and mainstream cultures,,,there is enough work to go around


see there? Truth and responsibility upon all groups not just the scapegoat that's easiest

and the single mother rate is also correlated to decrease in the number of children married women are having being on the decline,, though the assumption is always more on the side that single women are having more,,,


, on standby for the next 'its the blacks own fault, they don't do anything about it, and no one else has any responsibility',,, fingerpointing nonsens

I'm curious why you think this is an answer?

should everyone in banking lose their jobs and reapply on case by case to fix the corruption there?

Simple. With welfare cut-off for millions, those that don't really need it might be prodded into seeking employment and joining the rest of earners in this country. I don't agree that people should get a "free ride". It's not fair to the millions of us who have worked hard to get where they are. I can understand poor families, single mothers, the incapacitated or disabled, people like that who absolutely need a monthly stipend, but the sad truth is a lot of people receiving these stipends don't need them.

I worked in a convenience store, a fast-food restaurant, on an assembly line, and other rather menial jobs. If I can do them, I don't see why someone can't buck up and do it as well, if just to put food on the table for a family.

Is it fair? Of course not. =) Life isn't supposed to be fair.

As far as bankers go?

I agree with the notion that the major banks should be torn to the foundations and forced to split apart into several smaller banks. these mega-banks are way too powerful, and corrupted to the bone.

so to disillusion the criminal, who usually don't mind the extra work to defraud

we can make the majority jump through more hoops for what they need?


its more than unfair,, its inhumane, in my opinion

do more to enforce current regulations and place harsh consequences on fraud,, seems much more to the point

And how would you intend to do that?

You want to monitor every man and woman claiming welfare? Because that's clearly the only way to make the system work better. We've been imposing stiff penalties on people for decades whom commit welfare fraud, but it hasn't done a bit of good.

Enforcing regulations is exactly my point. By forcing all people to re-apply, and under new regulations, a lot of the fraudulent claims should sift out. =)

random checks would work just as well,,,,forcing all people to reapply takes away from the majority who need it for the minority who may not

maybe renewing to stay on, is a compromise

but taking it completely away is not reasonable just to ween out the few who may be abusing it