I have seen what's happening for the last four decades,, actually

and that doesn't change that its the Presidents role to respond to immediate threats against the USA

ahhhh ... gentle lady .. you are AWARE that littlle Barry Soweto has bombed more countries and killed more people then ALL the Noble Peace Prize winners combined.

Sweetie ... you are NOT keeping up with current events.

Here drink some old time religion koolaid and you be seeing the Pearly Gates of God our Father in Heaven that has baby sex with his Daughters ... who then go have play sex with their cockold husband.

no condoms .. ayatollah in the vatican approved.

sumbuddie wear blind sea

President Obama has done what is necessary for Presidents to do

the only Kool Aid is being drunk by those who spin the hard decisions to make personal attacks,,,

yes, and we wish him an expedient exit.

I wish the first family a safe transition out as well

I even wish the dictator in a wig a safe transition in,,,

ODNI even came forward and stated the CIA claims were a load of bs....Russia had no involvement and the leaked emails on Clinton were just that, leaked from a democratic party insider...

so u want to call the new president a dictator yet u support Barack Hussein Obama who wrote more executive orders than all former presidents in history combined.....that's pretty funny

Oh got it ... President Bush goes into a country for WMDs and Mushroom clouds that is BAD and not necessary for Presidents to do ..

and when President Obama goes into a country for raping 100 Irak women and hiding in Syria that is GOOD and a necessary thing for Presidents to do.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Can you help me with how it is Good thing for the Virgin Mary to have baby sex with the Ghost of her God the Father in Heaven and then doing play sex with her cockold husband later in the day to pop her cherry again ...

I am NOT saying it is BAD .. as that would be a religious inflamatory statement.

I am saying the Virgin Mary is GOOD to do such sex games .. I am just a bit fuzzy on how it is a good thing to do ... since you clearly can understand and sort out such confusing things that on the face of it seems to be blatant two faced hypocrisy.

sumbuddie wear blind sea

whats funny is all the nonsense posted as fact


Obama actually issued orders 13489-13738 a total of 249

which isn't even more than the LAST president who issued 290, let alone more than ALL previous presidents,,,


https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html

ok,, because I am bored

lets take one IRRELEVANT point at a time

1. IF there was collective intelligence verifying the presence of WMDs, than war as a FIRST measure would not be the right thing, but as a possibility , not that I made any comment about what I thought about Bush or his decision

2. I find this paragraph unintelligible:

'and when President Obama goes into a country for raping 100 Irak women and hiding in Syria that is GOOD and a necessary thing for Presidents to do.',,,so, no response will be given



3. IT is unreasonable to believe Mary had 'sex' with a ghost,(or anyone, considering she was virgin) as sex is a mortal physical activity,,



Mary was also never a president and not a topic of my statement that OBama does what presidents need to do

and

4. there is also nothing hypocritical about believing in the Virgin Mary and believing the President has done what Presidents need to do

u do realize that doesn't include the memorandums right?? lmao....would u care to debate his support of terrorism?

ALERT ALERT liberal temper tantrum ensuing

I do realize the claim was about 'executive orders' and it includes whatever was included in the information for 'all the other presidents', and isn't as much as even the last president

there is no 'support of terrorism' to debate

and no tantrum,,that usually manifests with the name calling and character attacks,,,

uh huh

I love a good debate. A good debate is when different people discuss any topic and be able to back up what they say. Or at least post whatever they think in an intelligent manner. I hate it when people talk out the side of their neck. It shows a lack of real knowledge of the issue being discussed.

With that being said, Here are some words to live by. "It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". Some on this thread should take these words to heart.

I started this thread so different people could discuss this topic. When you get right down to it, this isn't a Rep or Dem thing. It's an American, our country thing and the path that we are on. Pointing fingers at anyone isn't going to help this situation.

I'm neither Dem or Rep. I'm somewhere in between. I have paid attention at least to some of the things that have gone on the past 8 years. And in all honesty, Maybe Obama did do some things he shouldn't have. But at the same time, I do believe that Obama had been the most obstructed president in history.

Almost everything this man has tried to do to help people out here has met a brick wall. A wall put up by Rep in congress from the very start. The party of NO has been the cause of all this mess that people love to blame Obama for. No wonder he has had to sign so many executive orders.

Now, We have Mister Floating Hair. A loud mouthed ars.h.o.l.e of a man. A man that has no political experience at all. A man that seems to hate women. A man that makes fun of certain people. He's so low and full of drama that he can't stay off of twitter. Or can't go on twitter without starting a war of words with someone. He's not even in office yet. But makes light of certain responsibilities as president.

And also is showing signs that he could be in bed with Russia. One of you actually said something to the effect that you would rather have Trump, even though he might be in bed with Russia. Over Clinton.

I don't think I would have said that. Or anything like that. I wouldn't want anyone to know that I was willing to follow what could be a communist sympathizer. How un-American can you be? How could you hate someone so much that you could do that?

I'm beginning to regret starting this thread.

yea what's been happening the past 10 years , obomma , lets love everyone just come on to the usa , we will pay for your home . school, insurance , whatever you want , the angry deplorable white man can pay for it , people wake up, it's clear by the voting that all the true american's are tired of the bull''', i don't careb about color but i sure as hell care about burning the flag , speaking english, an just anyone crossing our borders,the senant said russia didnt do this the cia will not agree with white house , an mrs. obomma says all hope is gone , well lets see what he trys to pull in next monyh

yea what's been happening the past 10 years , obomma , lets love everyone just come on to the usa , we will pay for your home . school, insurance , whatever you want , the angry deplorable white man can pay for it , people wake up, it's clear by the voting that all the true american's are tired of the bull''', i don't careb about color but i sure as hell care about burning the flag , speaking english, an just anyone crossing our borders,the senant said russia didnt do this the cia will not agree with white house , an mrs. obomma says all hope is gone , well lets see what he trys to pull in next monyh

there is growing narcissism and selfishness encouraged within our culture,

I'll buy that all day long. Growing ever so tired of all the negativity in the world today and I think Donald is too...Michelle Obama said what?

been there done that,,,why I rarely start them

msharmony ... here is a URL if you want to read one of the many historical documents quoting Little Barry Soweto saying bombing ISIS in Syria is because they raped 100 Irak Women .. and Little Barry is the great rapist killer ...

so that is why our troops are dying ... not for some bushit WMDs and Mushroom clouds.

So you love a good debate .. here is proof to what you find untelligable.

If you can not get past the Atlantic Monthy and all the other publications that say the same thing ... this it certainly is not my problem.

sumbuddie wear blind sea





http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/president-obama-urges-war-without-even-pretending-there-are-wmds/380020/



Obama Urges War in Iraq Despite Known Lack of WMDs

The self-contradictory rhetoric of a shape-shifting president—and a case for war that lacks specificity and rigor
On October 7, 2002, President George W. Bush gave a speech making the case for confronting Saddam Hussein, building toward a war that Barack Obama declared stupid. Bush premised his case on the notion that Iraq posed a unique threat. "Some ask why Iraq is different from other countries or regimes that also have terrible weapons. While there are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone—because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place," he said. "Iraq's weapons of mass destruction are controlled by a murderous tyrant who has already used chemical weapons to kill thousands of people. This same tyrant has tried to dominate the Middle East, has invaded and brutally occupied a small neighbor, has struck other nations without warning, and holds an unrelenting hostility toward the United States. By its past and present actions, by its technological capabilities, by the merciless nature of its regime, Iraq is unique."

Last night, President Obama gave a speech making the case for a deeper American intervention against ISIS, a radical Sunni militia that operates in Iraq. He also premised his interventionism on the group being unique. "ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple," he said. "And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way. In a region that has known so much bloodshed, these terrorists are unique in their brutality. They execute captured prisoners. They kill children. They enslave, rape, and force women into marriage. They threatened a religious minority with genocide. And in acts of barbarism, they took the lives of two American journalists—Jim Foley and Steven Sotloff."

As Obama well knows, ISIS is not, in fact, unique in its brutality. They are not the first actors in the region to execute prisoners, kill children, rape women, or threaten genocide. Saddam Hussein did all that. Bashar al-Assad turned chemical weapons on children. Is that somehow less brutal than beheading journalists? How can a man who regarded the Iraq War as stupid, despite the fact that the regime we overthrew was every bit as brutal as ISIS, now cite the supposed "unique" brutality of ISIS as a primary justification for taking America to war in Iraq?

He was appealing to our fears and disgust, not our reason, much like his predecessor.

Obama also believes the Iraq War was stupid because the claims about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction falsely inflated the threat he posed to Americans. Bush talked about WMDs in that 2002 speech, and went on to say this: