immigration involves contracts

so children cannot enter into contracts, ruling their charge of 'avoiding the law' irrelevant


and many that are undocumented/illegal DID gain entry legally but had documents expire or not be renewed properly

It seems as if Ignorance of the law is just for naturally born citizens.

http://research.lawyers.com/ignorance-of-the-law-may-be-an-excuse.html


Sometimes, however, “willfulness” relates only to the defendant’s state of mind during the commission of the act—as the case may be with crimes like witness tampering or child endangerment—and has nothing to do with the defendant’s knowledge of the applicable criminal law. (For example, a defendant might have no idea that contacting and conversing with an adverse witness can be a criminal act; but that is no excuse if the prosecution can show that the conversations affected the witness.) Your attorney will be able to advise you on whether a willfulness requirement in the charge in your case might allow for a defense of ignorance.
Don’t Stay in the Dark on Purpose

Keep in mind that you cannot purposefully avoid learning applicable criminal laws and then take advantage of your ignorance as a defense. If a prosecutor can demonstrate that you “consciously avoided” knowledge of relevant criminal provisions, a judge at trial would instruct the jury that it should treat you as if you were fully aware of the legal consequences of your conduct. For example, if you opened a restaurant and a health inspector gave you a booklet containing the state’s new health laws for food service providers—which you never bothered to read—you would not likely be able to claim ignorance of a criminal provision contained in that booklet during a subsequent prosecution.

So the restaurant owner would be responsible for the booklet but the illegal would not be.

Who should get the most benefit of doubt? American or illegal?

when they swam the Rio Grand or treks across the boarder they was no thought of contract

immigration involves due process, screening... laws

All of which were totally ignored when they entered this country... again... illegally.

you see, that's why they run when they see the boarder police van or ICE.. They run because they are ILLEGAL.. they know it.. we know it ( well most of us anyway)

Maybe you don't mind having people just walk into your country.. knowing nothing about them or their background.. but I mind.

like I said in a prior post, take the 200,000 or so illegals that we have in our prisons ( seems they weren't too nice.. were they) and round up all the other known illegal Latin gang members off the street.. and boot their a** right back where they came from

Never haood any doubt he would fulfill his agenda to go after those mexican immigrants,,,,





next, women and muslims,,,,

YES ...... Ignorance of the Law is the same for everyone.

If the American business man can not shy away because he forgot the DETAILS neither can the illegal immigrant. FAIR IS FAIR.

Breaking the Law is Breaking the law.

again , with unsubstantiated claims,, which source documented how many non citizens are in prison?


in any case, being in jail also does not mean one is 'not so nice' , we have plenty of jailable offenses that have nothing to do with character or niceness, including,, wait for it, being here illegally


and noone disagreed that people who intentially sneak across the border should (and do) face penalties


the disagreement is that not everyone here illegally came to be that way because they snuck in,,,,



and those who didnt willfully sneak in should not be treated THE SAME as those who did