I dont know if that is true or not, he certainly still seems dedicated to the 'white' cause ...

being pro white is wrong? Is Byrd dedicated to whites as well?

people credit Lincoln, the president at the time... A republican....

I meant to answer your question about who stopped slavery here, lol

I dont feel one way or another about the man or about being 'pro white'

I'm just trying to figure out why one is good and the bad in your eyes... They were both grand poohbahs, but Byrd is good while Duke isn't? What's the difference?

I have actually not stated whether I thought either one was 'good' or 'bad'. I stated that one was admired for growing in his outlook from racist to social activist.

Yes, I think he did in the states but we were the first to lead, I've not looked it up tho.

they do, but he actually didn't stop slavery, his proclamation only applied in states where federal government had no authority.

a collection of many abolitionists, politicians, and slaves themselves collaborated in what eventually ended slavery, not really any one person.

If trump pressed the button and nuked nk you would say trump did it, you wouldn't say his party did!

you are right, which is why I rarely post anything putting blame on only one party or the other

however, I do hold accountable individuals for their individual actions, like a president choice to push a button that launches a nuke(unless it is necessary to run it by others for approval which it isnt)

Cool, then you can say one person can be accountable for starting the end of slavery

Psst...you guys brought it here

Shhhh,
don't say anything :winking,
Or, did you take them with you when you left?

Shhhhh

lol, the 'ending of slavery' was a much longer more complex process than applying pressure to a button with ones finger ...

Yes, but it had to start somewhere as does every change in life!
I think you should step back, put the kettle on and have a nice cup of tea, then chill.
That's written in the British constitution

oh, we are just having a discussion on a simplistic concept, no big deal, im only participating like everyone else, this is one way that I do chill.

what I was saying though is there is a big difference betweeen one person choosing to push a button that directly causes an action from beginning ot end

and one person making a statement about an action that involves millions over time ...

its like declaring who 'started' wars and which soldier shot the other soldier,, one is much more direct and instant than the other ...

Ummm, you didn't put the kettle on did you?

having a muffin and tea as I chat, actually.