if only hard work and study were TRULY 'all' it took ... because minorities have been some of the hardest 'working' in the country ...

in my line of work I don't see it that way. My job consists of building stair rails and ornamental iron products, and going out and installing these products usually at new construction sites, and 7 out of 10 times I see the workers that stand around or play on thier cell phone is the African American worker, this may be differant in other fields , but in my line of work that's how I see it , period..the theory that minorities are the hardest working is surely not true. Do you think that the avg. fast food worker is working hard to make sure you get what you ordered, yea right! It seems that because people were wrongly held as slaves 160 years ago that the anscesters of these people shouldn't have to work as hard as everyone else because of what thier great great grandparents went through. I'm not trying insert racism here , but I am telling it as I see it and I'm sure I'm not the only one that sees this.

your perception is interesting.

I stand by my own perception, as a black female, with a black family living in a predominately white culture my whole life ,,, that black people have been SOME of the hardest working.

Its a matter of what one perceives to be 'hard work'. I feel any job in hot surroundings where one has to be on their feet all day is just as hard or harder than any 'intellectual' job at a desk on ones behind in air conditioning all day.

Black people are more likely to have physical labor type (hard work) jobs than most ,,, leading to my perception that they are SOME of the 'hardest' working. I worked in office work most my life, mostly with white colleagues, and I have seen a precominance of people who sit around, gossip, "play", or sit around on their cell phones.

I think social media is the culture even in the workplace across occupations. But I also think black people are more likely to have those jobs requiring actual 'hard'(physical) work than others.

and thats how I see it, and Im sure Im not the only one as well.

has it been that way EVERYWHERE you have worked where blacks were employed? OR is this more of an anecdote that can be referred to for this particular topic?

As a black woman, I have not seen this to be the case anywhere I worked. Laziness has been pretty equal opportunity from my perspective. as has the tendency to accept 'anything' rather than 'nothing'

so has the tendency for people to put a value on their own time and efforts and seek employment that matches ....

i never said anything about lazyness... i just said it's easier for them to live off the government...just like Trump said, taking advantage of the programs in place...

that statement could be said of anyone, its not a black thing ...

not really, because it's what i see in my job site... i can't say it about muslims or Asians...

not really, because it's what i see in my job site... i can't say it about muslims or Asians...

its hard to imagine how one can 'see' that someone finds it easier to live off of welfare. do the employers come back and reveal their source of income or their beliefs once they have left the job?

no, they like to brag about it before they leave...

how convenient that they work with someone who already sees them as lazy then ...

I know such people exist of course, I just do not have the perception that they are the norm, as opposed to the exception.

I think the statement that someone would RATHER have welfare than 'work' is usually meant to imply they are lazy ... yes

lazy: unwilling to work or use energy.

Are you near stockdale Texas?
27 killed in a church shooting?

Southerland springs, Texas
i'm in houston, about 130 miles away