and two cents from forbes.com

If lawmakers want to address the future flow of people attempting to enter the country unlawfully they can make two policy changes that do not involve major changes to immigration enforcement. First, Congress can make it lawful to work in America under a legal visa at year-round jobs in construction, hotels, restaurants and landscaping. The visas can be fully portable, since that would be the best labor protection. The failure to make this common-sense reform has profited criminal smuggling gangs and resulted in hundreds of deaths annually of those attempting to enter the U.S. through unsafe border areas.

The second change is to work actively with Central American governments to reduce the violence that is driving so many of its citizens to flee to the United States. Sending people back to conditions that can get them killed or preventing individuals from pursuing viable asylum claims is not a policy worthy of the country that Thomas Jefferson once said “should be the asylum of all those who wish to avoid the scenes which have crushed our friends in [other lands].”

Beyond deporting people who represent a genuine criminal or security threat to Americans, the rest of those targeted for deportation are people already in the workforce, at least 70 percent of whom have been living in the United States 10 years or longer, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2017/12/05/wheres-the-immigration-crisis-u-s-border-patrol-reports-illegal-border-crossings-at-record-low/#72cb99fb4b73

It's just an attempt of the globalist to take over the world with open borders..or it could just be a fig newton of my imagination.. ..yes I know it's figment..so don't start..lol

Again, it all depends on the true aim. If it is merely about documentation, one option is focusing on 'sending them back'

if the aim is 'securing america' another option is offering more options for those who are here contributing to the economy and the american workforce TO STAY and continue to do so.


its all about the true motives ...

It's just an attempt of the globalist to take over the world with open borders..or it could just be a fig newton of my imagination.. ..yes I know it's figment..so don't start..lol

just a few numbers i've read about...these are estimates only
but basically agreed upon by most rational people...

about 11 million illegals in the US..
of these 11m about two to three percent engage in
felonious criminal activity....to save argument i'll raise
that figure double to 5-6 percent..

so, one can surmise, that 95 % of all illegal immigrants
are law abiding people who are NOT criminals, but hard working
people who contribute to our society, pay taxes and in general
cause no harm...i'm pretty sure most of that 95% aren't taking
anybodys job away either...i would say a large number are
being exploited by agra-farm corporations who pay them a
sub-standard wage for their labor, but they work anyway, because
to speak out would spell their doom...finding a US citizen who
is willing to perform stoop-labor harvesting crops for 50 bucks
a day with no benefits please apply at Con-Agra today...

for me, i just don't see any threat to America from these people..
to the criminal element i agree, round them up, just like we
do to the criminals who are US citizens...

still afraid of the pretend bogeyman....i'm not

A Type I designation is a given to species who have been able to harness all the energy that is available from a neighboring star, gathering and storing it to meet the energy demands of a growing population.

I think the difficulty in what is being suggested is that people will not own up to what is WRONG with 'our' way of life, (whoever the 'our' happens to refer to doesnt matter)

People tend to want to dominate and become attached to the symbolism and idealism of owning values. People tend to place cultures in a hierarchy of those that are better or worse without real review of the improvements they themselves should be making to be better.

I think it would be nice if instead of humans expecting humans to be more like them, if we instead became more like a better SELF. IF all would set that goal, without the knocking down and dominating and competitive classifications, we might get somewhere more enlightened, not to mention safer and healthier.

And it is difficult. the common philosophy of gratefulness that causes people to focus on good things is because 'others have it worse' or because they know how much worse off it could be for them.

And it is hard for that idea of 'I/we could have it worse' to not translate into "I am/we are better'.

Science fiction is full of scenarios of both Dystopian Isolation and Utopian Unity. Some radical science fiction concepts explore Utopian Isolation and Dystopian Unity. Both borders and no borders.

All the scenarios deal with the idealisms of a specific group.

To a united planet, borders are not necessary.
They are not needed because the people on that planet view the entire population of people as one people. United in a common goal.
Defend the planet from hostile invaders, come together to pool our intelligence to create a planetary science. There is always a ruling class of people keeping goals in focus. Its when those goals go out of focus or are changed without agreement that dystopia sets in.

From a Utopian point of view, our world is self-destructing.
Technology and wealth is not shared and we maintain this status quo thru isolation. We don't want to share.

The Canadian border is not subject to scrutiny as much as the Mexican border because Canada is close to our level of technology and wealth. Mexico is 3rd world technology and wealth. We see it as unstable and dangerous. Likewise, we see its people as unstable and dangerous as a whole but the people individually are just people. Just like our own citizens there are some that are unstable and dangerous. Unlike our citizens we can't control the illegal immigrants because we can't accurately track and influence them.

In a world of unity, there is no need for borders. There is no 1st world/3rd world separation. No reason to isolate. Technology and wealth is spread out to become one quality of life.
To do this would require the higher level countries to 'give' their technology and wealth to te less developed countries.
We refuse to sacrifice our technology and wealth so we try to protect it by isolation.

But...Imagine for a second that the technology and wealth were spread out equally across the world. It allows the people all over the world to have the same intelligence and values that promote our way of life. The 3rd world countries then become part of the whole. There is less conflict and greater tendancy for unity.
The threat is removed in favor of technology and wealth.

Its a shift in thinking far beyond the ability of most people.
The concept supports the Kardashev scale of advanced civilizations. Specifically what it will take for the people of Earth to reach a type ONE civilization.


~ http://futurism.com/the-kardashev-scale-type-i-ii-iii-iv-v-civilization/
The scale focuses on energy production and technology but to reach that point in technology require global unity like we have never experienced. A global unity that can't happen with our current mindset.

So go ahead and argue about immigrants. Argue about borders. Call for war and kill your neighbor.

In the mean time, I'll be patiently waiting for us to unify and become a Type 1 civilization. {{{Born in the Wrong Time}}}

donations would be a good thing...

how about a box to check on the income tax form ?

do you want to contribute a percent of your refund to the cost of the WALL ???

check the appropriate box (1% to 99%) your contribution
will be deducted from your return...

LOL that should cover it, nada problemo...

And let me add this ..so when all the illegals come over millions and millions of them come over and millions more and we make them legal and when major companies see that they will work for half of what you do because they're willing to pack twenty in a house whose gonna start losing their jobs you will..

so you might want to get ready to start packing twenty in your household..now your whole way of life has changed ..and now there's so many people that they're lining the streets ..and guess what you are one of them sleeping in a ditch on the side of the road..cuz there's no jobs

Big corporations now they're gonna love it cause that's more money in their pockets..so ya might want to rethink this over before you get too carried away with the world of kumbaya..This is what the globalist want..so go ahead a play right into their hands..