Hilary Clinton was born in 1947. In 1999, she had lived already for 52 years.

Her life until then was not 'luxury'

Even by 1991, she would have been 44. She has known what it is to be in the some circle other than that of great wealth.

I will always go for experience in the field in any job. POTUS is figurehead of government, so the relevant experience is having held other government or civic(serving the people) jobs.

Obama had seven years as state senator and 3 years as US senate, not to mention an education on CONSTITUTIONAL LAW(which I think is a significant document to understand in the position)

He also had years of civic service (serving the community) in the areas of community job training, community tenants rights, and voters rights.


for me, experience is never OVERRATED, so long as its relevant to the job. For me the job of politics has a bottom and a top that one should build up to and not start out at. for me, the job of POTUS should have previous experience working with in and knowing the boundaries and structure of the Government policy making, as well as some history of civic or community service of others.

I believe your facts are incorrect and speculative regarding the Iran Contra deal. But that is the topic of another thread.

no politician fixes everything but that doesnt negate the experience that comes in their taking action to try to fix some things.


OBama sponsored and co sponsored hundreds of bills, nitpicking the popular or unpopular or the successful or unsuccessful also doesn't negate having experience.

If the country isnt better than a failing wall street, a sinking automotive industry, two wars, millions uninsured, and and a monthly hemmorhaging of 9 million jobs in a month to monthly gaining them, I guess nothing could count as 'better off' then.

ms.harmony,

I didnt mention the Iran Contra deal, I said the Iranian deal, you know lifting of the sanctions.

2) I was pointing out some of Obama's state achievements, nothing really to write home to mother about.

3) the healthcare insurance thing and the uninsured well that is just Democrat propaganda, they dont want to tell you the real story.

4) all these jobs created during Obama's reign, you mean the Walmart jobs and other retail jobs, Walmart is the biggest employer in the U.S.

and they earn?????

yes nothing is better than losing high paid manufacturing jobs to be replaced by a ton of retail jobs

Thank you president Obama

and thank you for the rise of Black lives matter, Antifa and the Trump Movement.

America is more divided today since the vietnam war of the 60's at least that is what my Grandfolks are telling me.

none of this having anything to do with the presidential vote o 2016, and little of it is backed up with fact or data.

America has always been divided, they just finally with the first black president found it more difficult to hide it, and with the first openly bigoted president found it virtuous to share. ...

ms.harmony

you made the claim that Trump is a bigot ( america's first openly bigoted president), I countered that with what Alveda King and many others including Jesse Jackson at one time said.

By the way Andrew Jackson and Woodrow Wilson has Trump beat, both democrats too.

FDR hated the japanese

James Monroe.. remember Liberia and its capital city “Monrovia.” and whom ended up in Liberia?

Andrew Johnson vetoed civil rights and Freedmen bills and opposed the 14th and 15 amendments

all democrats and finally what did LBJ say about black people even though he signed the civil rights act , he will get those ( what) voting for the next 200 years.

these are facts not opinions .

why does everyone call Obama "black"? I can call him white just as easily.

He's not black he's biracial.

birth certificates usually use the mother's race.

you are correct, Those are facts. I will correct myself to say that he is the first openly bigoted president POST civil rights, POST 70s.

mexicans - only 'some' who come are 'good' people.
africans -their countries are shithole
haitians- have aids
congresswoman with native ancestry - pocohontas
puerto ricans-want everything done for him

his inexperience, and sometimes disregard of anyone other than the wealthy and white is an opinion I form from his own words over three years of observing him, often 'at his best behavior' in front of cameras and crowds.

In america, they include the race of the mother AND father.

lets go over your comments well Trump's comments.

mexicans - only 'some' who come are 'good' people.

that isn't a racist comments when it has some truth to it, some are good that come over and some are bad, many mexican americans have said the same thing, so when the mexican americans say it its not racist, but when Trump says it is?
Come on Ms.Harmony you are better than this.

africans -their countries are shithole

allegedly.

Certain african countries are **** holes, its a harsh way of saying it but its true, certain Asian countries are **** holes too, certain former soviet republicans are **** holes,certain south American countries are **** holes

I think Mississippi is a **** hole too , I think south Bronx is a **** hole, it is what is, the problem with Trump is he isnt a schooled politician well he is but he trying to come across as an average citizen which isn't presidential in my opinion.

haitians- have aids
he allegedly said that, it wasn't proven.

The pocahontas comment was directed at liar Elizabeth Warren who said she was native indian or has native indian ancestry to get tenure at Harvard, the blued eyed pocahontas, that is where the comment came from and directed at.

that lying money grabbing senator Warren.

puerto ricans-want everything done for him

talking about taking things out of context , here the correct quote Ms.harmony.

want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that is the correct quote

You're welcome.

yes but in america, if you have any african american blood, you will be known as african american.

Techncially Obama is mixed race , but since marrying Michelle, he identify more with african american,and if you read his book he certainly didn't fit in with the african american culture when he was young and calling himself "barry"