did chicago happen to YOU? lol. wth.

every time one brings up another tangent to question me about, I answer it, and then here comes someone chiming in to question my answer to a question ...lol

unbelievable.

anyway. Historic seperation, segregation and discrimination are tied to the socio economic structures of our country, as well as our justice system and healthcare and educational system. The CULTURE is ingrained in such a way that it continues to impact decisions at the highest ranks, and the segregation and discrimination have lead families to areas of high concentrated poverty and deplenished resources. It continues to be passed down from generation to generation and within policy after policy.

Do you know why they live in poverty? Because they won't work. That's why you see liquor stores thrive in those areas. They might not be able to get a ride to a job but they have no problem getting money for liquor, beer, and dope. Elvis made a song about it back in the 70's. People hire them but they are too damn lazy to work. They would rather sit around and ***** about what the govt hasn't done for them. Most people don't expect anything from the govt. We are taught to get jobs as teenagers. It comes from ghetto mom's raising kids on welfare. The kids don't think they are supposed to work either.

alot of Assumptions, as usual.

y'all can go on and talk about the shootings in Chicago anytime. Bigotry is alive and well. Im done as a black mingler trying to reason against such deeply ingrained racist beliefs.

Does it have to actually physically happen to me to count?

350 kids shot " happens" to me and every other person with a heart. Every other person who has raised kids. Every other person who knows how defenseless they are.

MS, Chicago is national news.. and has been for a long time, actually it is a issue that is also been covered in the European press as well. And because it is not happening in your backyard it is not happening?...Does it have to actually happen to you to count?.. now THAT is unbelievable Lol

And please not the " systems fault" again.

you went from the system to the cops, to the booze

Every excuse instead of personal responsibility.

So you keep believing it is someone else's fault and I will continue to claim it is lack of personal responsibility. at least I do agree with a Democrat on this( which is a switch.. right?)... The mayor ;)

It's not racist if it's true. The lady that called me for my phone interview was black. The guy who gave me the walk through was black. The hiring team who voted on whether or not to hire me wss 1 back 2 Mexicans and 1 white. The woman I replaced was black because she wouldn't work. They fired her about 2 hours after I started. She was chosen for the job first. Keep in mind it was a black giving phone interviews. Blacks have just as much or more opportunity than whites. They just won't take them because work is hard. Saving is hard. Owning a home takes work. Etc.

yep, and white peoples moral failings are creating growing single parented children and school shootings and serial killers and wars and drunk driving accidents

its true, because I say it is ... so there we have it, no race is free from criticism when it comes to morals, huh?

I dont do 'fault' cause nothing happens in a vaccuum. I did provide several things that contribute, including that SOME parents fail ...


But you keep doing it to appease your sense of racial superiority ...

and you keep in mind all the blacks who WERE working, but keep claiming blacks dont want to ...

and you keep in mind all the blacks who WERE working, but keep claiming blacks dont want to ...

I said the ones living in poverty and crying they don't have opportunity just won't work. And it's true. Then you have blacks working who will pay $400 for a pair of Jordan's but don't even have a car to drive and bumming a ride off someone else. Then you have the working ones spending it all at the club and living off grandma and the welfare. None of this crap has anything to do with being oppressed. Getting pregnant and not knowing who the father is because they've been with so many men in one month isn't oppression from ancestors being slaves. It's lack of morals. So is not working and caring more about their kids than a night with a man who just got parole.

it has little to do with racial morals either, as people in all races do the above. And it is not as simple as 'not wanting to work' or else the unemployment gap would not have remained the same for decades, regardless of the state of the economy, and rising and falling at the same rates as whites.


white women also get pregnant and dont know the daddy's, or have you not watched Maury or Jerry? None of this crap has anything to do with the morals of black people being any different than any other people.

Yes we have what is known as white trash. But the majority of white people won't put up with that crap. I watched black girls act like getting pregnant was nothing more than being 10 minutes late for curfew. The problem is their mom was trashy too. There are consequences to white women getting pregnant.

there is 'trash' in all races, the majority of ALL races dont 'put up' with it.

there are consequences when ANY woman gets pregnatn.

I googled because those unwed birth rates didn't seem right. Institute for families Sept 2017 says 70% of black mothers are unwed and 46% of white mothers. When a black woman gets pregnant out of wedlock it's no big deal to the black community. It's the norm. When a white does it, they are shamed by other whites. From what I see, If a black tries to live a decent life, they are shunned by the black community. It's crazy but it's true. Most blacks don't want to do better and when 1 does, it's takes their excuse away.

no. you are confusing numbers. The 70 percent comes from the ratio of black single mothers to black married mothers.

The rate of births per 1000 comes from the trend in the rate per total population of births.

they are different statistics, both accurate, which can be cherry picked in a discussion on 'morals'

white women have been increasing the rate at which they have single parent births, while black women have been decreasing. It so happens that married black women have decreased even more than the single mothers, making the RATIO become higher.



You see alot of nonsense. Im not sure why. maybe its what your brain is wired to see. I see both blacks and whites having kids without shame for marital status. I see both blacks and whites given praise for trying to do better. No matter how often people try to paint the picture that its racially different morals, its not.

I googled again and got the same numbers. Unwed birth rates. Not divorce, cohabitation etc. But I do believe that the generous welfare system we have is also causing whites to begin to abuse the system just like blacks have been doing. My daughter can't get any help because she would have to report her husband's income. In an unmarried family medical, foodstamps, sec 8 etc is taken care of by mom's welfare. The father's check is spending money. Welfare is destroying families.

This is what I've been trying to explain to liberals. Everyone is catching onto the easy way of life. The welfare system is exploding. It's not a few unwed mothers on it anymore. It's becoming more than half and will eventually be most.

My daughter was telling me things are tight for her and Logan right now. My first thought was to tell her to get divorced and live together so she can get help. Then I thought that's the wrong thing to do. So now I see me trying to help out with small things when I can but watching others abuse the system. Tax payers need to be able to keep more of our money because we have family that we help already. Welfare needs to be changed to where dad's income is counted married or not.

still not understanding the numbers huh?

okay. So lets say there are 2000 women, 1000 married and 1000 unmarried

if they ALL have 4 kids, thats a RATIO of 50 percent of kids born out of wedlock

Now, if the thousand unwed begin having only 3 kids, but the thousand married cut back to only 1 kid

the ratio now becomes 75 born out of wedlock, even though BOTH groups are having less children

now, take the same scenario 1000 but with unwed WOMEN and 1000 wed WOMEN


if the unwed WOMEN are being 'moral' according to this thread, we are going to look at the rate at which they are popping out kids, not just the rate at which those who HAVE kids are popping them out.

and if the unwed women go from 19 births per thousand to 66, they are somewhere become less'moral' and if they go from 95 to 67 per 1000, they have become less' moral'.

so the difference is in if one chooses to take the number of all MOTHERs, or the numbers regarding all unmarried women, to discern 'morals'.

So it's a liberal spin you are trying to put on it. It's doesn't change the numbers. I already know welfare mom have lots of kids for a bigger income vs a white woman might have 1 kid out of wedlock and realize it takes a lot to raise that child and not make that mistake again. You aren't helping your argument.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-history-of-chicago-homicides-htmlstory.html

___________________________________________________________________-the violence.. in a nutshell

Since the Black Panthers in the 50's all the way thru the Gangster Disciples of current times, Chicago has lead the country in thug gang activity. Sustained activity.

The shootings and murders are due to gangs fighting for control of areas in order to sell their drugs. Which is the prime source of income. Crack and Heroine. The children shot ( and killed) are collateral damage in the eyes of the thugs. Some have been killed in retaliate of their families ties to other gangs.

So, the thugs are in it for one reason...thug money. And clearly they will kill anyone in their way.

So, yes lets offer them a 9 to 5 job answering to a boss... see how that works out.

Very true.
I'm sure they would love to leave their thuggish ways and work a real job and pay taxes.

This tragedy in Chiraq isn't going away anytime soon.