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hardBNhard

Sun 04/07/19 07:01 PM

The IRS audits most anyone over a certain level of income such as President Trump. There was probably a team of auditors that have followed Trump tax returns for years. Should he not have filed a legal tax return and paid his taxes, I'm sure the IRS would have gone to great lengths to collect what they thought was owing.

I think it is all about politics. The Trump tax returns would give the democrats plenty of ammunition to claim Trump is a poor, little rich boy that has no idea of what being a common person is about. I would expect Trump's income to be on a similar level as other CEOs, celebrities, and sports stars. His and Melania's income probably makes the Obama's look like the poor folk struggling to get by. Trump probably paid more in taxes than the Obamas made!!

Why make this about the Obama's sir ? He showed his tax info !
And its not just about what he paid in taxes but who he is doing buisness with ! i.e. the russians , the saudi's ! And how that affects how he is treating them now .
He said over and over again he would show his taxes ?
What are you scared of that they will discover ? Why does it bother you so much that the country wants to see them ?
Look how long the idiot chased obama around to show his birth certificate ? Wasnt that a crock of crap ?

oldkid46

Sun 04/07/19 07:26 PM

IF I were President Trump. I would take my tax returns, blank out all the numbers, and send it to CNN or the Washington Post with a big red ribbon and bow around it!!! Do you think that would satisfy the democrats?

It was not about the Obamas only they were the last Presidential couple to file a joint tax return and release it. I could have looked up any other past President and then made an adjustment for the time since the return was filed. Maybe someone is being a little overly sensitive?

msharmony

Sun 04/07/19 07:57 PM

once again though, it is not about what he DOES as much as what he DOES as it impacts his decisions as PRESIDENT and as it relates to what he CLAIMS.

Whether IRS audits him or whether he finds LEGAL loopholes to paying taxes is not an issue. The issue regarding the returns is that HE SAID he had nothing to hide. and HE SAID he would release them as other POTUS have, and HE has made claims as to his wealth and his political connections, which could be verified or contrasted by what shows up in his taxes.

It is not about the legality of his tax debt or lack of, it is about the TRUTH of what he has claimed, the potential hypocrisy of his criticism about 'taxpayer' money, and the potential financial motives that may motivate his decisions as POTUS.

Charles1962150

Sun 04/07/19 09:24 PM

Trump chief of staff vows tax returns will 'never' be released

"White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said the call for the records to be released was a "political stunt".

On Wednesday a Congressional tax committee submitted a request for six years of the president's returns from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

Unlike previous presidents, Mr Trump has refused to publish his tax details".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47847022

This is what adds fuel to the fire. This is what makes many people think Trump is more of a crook than what we already know. The more he tries to hide this, the bigger the crook he is believed to be. With all he has hung over his head already, especially with his charity being shut down because Trump and family were using it for there own private piggy bank, refusing to show tax returns only fuels the belief that he has somehow hidden money from the IRS.

Or some scam he has pulled that just hasn't come to light yet, could all be answered just by a look at his tax returns. They might can delay showing them, but the idea that they can keep the Democrats from ever seeing Trump's tax returns is a farce. The Democrats will get them eventually. When you get right down to it, There is nothing Trump can do about it because he doesn't have that control. He can pressure the Treasury Secretary not too. But that's about it. If the Democrats lean harder on the Treasury Secretary,(Subpoena) he will release them just to get the Democrats off his back.

Can House Democrats release Donald Trump's tax returns?

"Breaking with tradition, Trump has consistently refused to release his returns, something that every previous presidential nominee and the president had done voluntarily for decades. Critics of the president say his returns could shed light on possible conflicts of interest and irregularities in his holdings".

How can the House secure an individual’s tax returns?

Attention has focused on a provision of the law known as 26 U.S. Code § 6103. This allows the chairman of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, among other senior lawmakers, to seek returns by sending a written request to the Treasury Secretary. Officially, the decision to release the returns would be made by the Treasury Secretary, not the White House, although it’s not difficult to imagine presidential pressure being exerted on the secretary to refuse.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/jan/02/can-house-democrats-release-donald-trumps-tax-retu/

Edited by Charles1962150 on Sun 04/07/19 09:28 PM

tombraider

Mon 04/08/19 10:50 AM

Wake Up ..This is just the beginning..this is what I have been warning about..It would be far worse if it wasn't for TRUMP..Like I said ..JUST THE BEGINNING..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8qt51BORk

They are going to do anything to start a racial war ..Jussie Smollett was just a small attempt this is the next plan..The news is hiding it YOUR SOURCES..and you're worried about Trump's taxes .. it's another attempt to get Trump out of the way..YOU best start worrying about this..If it wasn't for TRUMP it would be ALOT worse..This is why they want Trump out this is why they want open borders ..to DESTROY our sovereignty and our nation..LIKE I SAID ..IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE..ALOT WORSE.. I have been trying to warn you about this...

Don't let ANYONE distract you from this..this is IMPORTANT..

Edited by tombraider on Mon 04/08/19 10:54 AM

hardBNhard

Mon 04/08/19 11:14 AM

But if ya dispute what I say go to youtube and start looking up Q ..Qanon ..shouldn't be hard to find and search..major following..several sites

I've often wondered what all this 'Q' stuff is all about, so following the advice given in previous posts I 'did the research' and discovered it is nothing more than a conspiracy theory!

“What Q stands for is military intelligence, most likely. He’s been talking to all of us. Letting us know the covert battles that are waging between the Deep State and President Trump.”

Tyler, whose last name was not disclosed to WPLG, is one of a growing number of vocal followers of a conspiracy theory, known as Qanon, that has taken hold among some Trump supporters. The theory centers around an anonymous source, Q, who is trying to tell the world about a secret battle being waged by Trump and special counsel Robert Mueller against a pedophile ring filled with celebrities and political elites who have been covertly running the United States government for decades.

There is no evidence to back the claims. Because, in reality, of course, none of this is true.

That has not stopped the conspiracy theory from gaining an online following. It’s also beginning to show up in the real world at Trump rallies and on billboards. Some people have even acted on the claims.

HOW DID THIS START?
In December 2016, Edgar M. Welch entered a Washington, D.C., pizza parlor and demanded access to a basement that did not exist. He believed the restaurant was part of a child sex ring, a conspiracy known as Pizzagate. Conspiracy theorists on Reddit and 4chan posted that readers could uncover a child sex ring in the hacked emails of John Podesta — if only one were to replace words like “pizza” with “little girl.”

Eight months later, a person going by “Q” posted for the first time on the anonymous politics message board of 4chan, among the most notorious and extreme places on the internet — and a hotbed of conspiracy talk. Even Q’s first post was riddled with standard conspiracies that never took place.

That marked the start of the Qanon theory, which has drawn on some of the themes that fueled Pizzagate.

Now that we know, we can all go back to reliable sources of info about dozy donny, like Reuters! laugh

I tried to warn you sir laugh

Careful going onto those sites he suggest .i.e. "Q" . My provider suggest it may contain MALWARE

I know I'm a little off topic. I don't mean to piss off any of the higher up's. But this is the truth as best as I know it. Right now Mingle is the only social media site that is still allowing people to post links that may be harmless in the start, but winds up leading someone that doesn't know any better to get their computers infected with some nasty Mal-ware. So, to the readers of this thread that might not know any better, Careful of some of the conspiracy links that are posted here. If it takes you to YouTube, but then tries to take you off YouTube to some link to some conspiracy site, like, "Infowars" or worse, all I can say is be very careful. No telling what kind of Mal-ware you may find.

OK, that's my off-topic PSA for the day.

This is your Republican Party. They like to low rate dead people. People with much better reputations that they will ever have. This is how sorry and low down your Republican Party has become. To me, this is nothing but rich white trash that's doing this. Not to mention, a low down coward and a lier that has ZERO room to low rate anyone. Much less the dead.

Roger Stone Shares Vile Instagram Post About The Late Barbara Bush

"Longtime Donald Trump associate Roger Stone defended the president’s recent attack on the late former first lady Barbara Bush with a vile Instagram post on Friday.

“Well she’s dead and he’s president- who won that one?” Stone asked in his lengthy caption".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/roger-stone-shares-vile-instagram-080146795.html

Roger Stone Goes After Deceased First Lady in Defense of Trump

"Are there constituents among the American electorate who love the trashing of dead people? If so, President Donald Trump has cornered that market. Weeks ago Trump hammered the now-deceased Sen. John McCain because he can’t get past McCain’s famous thumbs-down vote on legislation that would have taken away healthcare from millions of Americans, but more than that, our insecure president could never get over the personal slights McCain dished out regarding Trump over the years".

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/roger-stone-barbara-bush-818654/

Thats what happened to me ! I tried to go to one of his links and my service provider flashed me a warning
"WARNING" THE LINK YOU ARE ATTEMPTING MAY CAUSE HARMFUL MAL-WARE TO YOUR DEVICE FROM MALICIOUS FOREIGN ACTORS "
Thanks for the heads up :thumbsup:

hardBNhard

Mon 04/08/19 11:15 AM

The sky is falling , THE SKY IS FALLING ! scared

msharmony

Mon 04/08/19 11:29 AM

if it wasnt for Trump? Really? What is Trump saving us from? Trump's success and wealth is founded upon the system as it HAS BEEN. Borders are not open and border crossings , with the exception of the time TRUMP has run his mouth to stir up fear, have been decreasing under both democratic and republican leadership. As far as a race war, these are not the days of Helter Skelter. But a race war, if it were to happen, is certainly not going to be impeded with the words and antics that TRUMP employs.

tombraider

Mon 04/08/19 12:24 PM

Decreasing really?..Here's three sources that dispute your claims.. ..DO THE RESEARCH..and this is just a few..

https://www.marketplace.org/2019/03/05/wealth-poverty/border-crossings-rise-despite-increased-federal-investment

https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Border+Crossings+Have+Increased+2019&qpvt=border+crossings+have+increased+2019&FORM=EWRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVDLr-aQcgE

BOOOM!!!

Edited by tombraider on Mon 04/08/19 12:26 PM

msharmony

Mon 04/08/19 12:27 PM

Decreasing really..Here's three sources that dispute your claims

https://www.marketplace.org/2019/03/05/wealth-poverty/border-crossings-rise-despite-increased-federal-investment

https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Border+Crossings+Have+Increased+2019&qpvt=border+crossings+have+increased+2019&FORM=EWRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVDLr-aQcgE

First. thank you for finally providing links to non Facebook sources.

Second. going through the links, they actually dont dispute my claim.

They speak about the crossings in the past YEAR only, under Trump, which I also had set aside as an outlier to the downward trend happening BEFORE TRUMP started running his mouth about the crisis.

oldkid46

Mon 04/08/19 12:52 PM

of course!! You disregarded 2018 and 2019 numbers saying they do not represent the trend!! How about we come back to this subject in April of 2020 during the reelection campaign? Will you look at the trends of 2018, 2019, and 2020 then?

Charles1962150

Mon 04/08/19 01:26 PM

Kirstjen Nielsen: Trump 'berated homeland security secretary' early in the morning and demanded illegal actions, report claims

"Kirstjen Nielsen, the US homeland security secretary who helped enforce President Trump's zero-tolerance immigration policies, has resigned amid claims of a contentious working relationship with the US leader.

According to The New York Times, Ms. Nielson has had a rough ride since she took the job in December 2017 and was "regularly berated" by Trump, who is said to have demanded that she take a more aggressive approach to tighten immigration".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kirstjen-nielsen-quits-trump-tensions-homeland-security-white-house-a8859436.html

George Conway Rips Trump For Punishing Those Who Won't Help Him Break Laws

"George Conway went on a tear again against President Donald Trump on Sunday, this time for a disturbing “pattern” apparent in his ouster of Homeland Security head Kirstjen Nielsen.

On Twitter, Conway pointed to a report in The New York Times that said Trump often blew up at Nielsen when she warned him about how the actions he demanded against immigrants were illegal".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/george-conway-rips-trump-punishing-064419848.html

Another promise broken.

The Trump administration is holding up a crucial infrastructure project

"The Trump administration’s decision to withhold funding for a critical East Coast infrastructure project could cause economic trouble for the entire country.

The Gateway Program is a transportation project intended to fix the crumbling infrastructure carrying roughly 200,000 daily of commuters between New Jersey and New York through the Hudson River Tunnel. The project’s inception in 2011 arose as a means to replace the “Access to the Region’s Core” tunnel project that was canceled by then-N.J. Governor Chris Christie.

The Obama administration agreed it would cover half of the costs of the $30-billion project, with the remaining half would be split between the New York and New Jersey state governments. But the deal fell apart after Trump was elected, and according to the New York Times, the president denied there ever was an agreement".

url]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ny-nj-tunnel-project-trump-192623246.html

The Stats on Border Apprehensions

"Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said monthly border apprehensions have returned to “previous levels” since dropping significantly after President Donald Trump took office. That’s true: There was a sharp rise in those apprehended at the Southwest border in March from a year ago, putting the figure back in line with 2016.

But what about the long-term view? Apprehensions have been on a general downward trend since the mid-2000s".

http://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/the-stats-on-border-apprehensions/

Trump Claims There Is a Crisis at the Border. What’s the Reality?

"President Trump has frequently called the situation at the southern border with Mexico a crisis and insists that building his long-promised border wall will fix it. Here are some of Mr. Trump’s most common assertions of a crisis, and the reality of what we know about immigrants and the border".

"THE REALITY Illegal border crossings have been declining for nearly two decades. In 2017, border-crossing apprehensions were at their lowest point since 1971.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/11/us/politics/trump-border-crisis-reality.html

3 Charts That Show What's Actually Happening Along The Southern Border

"The total number of people apprehended for illegally crossing the southern U.S. border has been steadily falling for almost two decades. It's a long-term trend that sociologists, economists, and federal officials have been tracking for years".

According to the Department of Homeland Security, there is a long-term trend of fewer people being arrested or apprehended for allegedly crossing the border illegally. Most apprehensions happen along the southern border. (Years shown are fiscal years.)

http://www.npr.org/2018/06/22/622246815/unauthorized-immigration-in-three-graphs

Illegal Immigration Statistics

"There were 12 million immigrants living in the country illegally as of January 2015, according to the most recent estimate from the Department of Homeland Security. The estimates from two independent groups are similar: The Pew Research Center estimates the number at 10.7 million in 2016, and the Center for Migration Studies says there were 10.8 million people in 2016 living in the U.S. illegally.

That would be about 3.3 percent to 3.7 percent of the total U.S. population in 2016 or 2015.

http://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

tombraider

Mon 04/08/19 01:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QUYZiXyqNQ

.Blaming Trump doesn't fix the problem and doesn't protect your FAMILIES.I'm trying to warn you

Well it looks like Chicken Little just provided the PROOF..and there's more where that came from..And like I said ..it's going to get WORSE..ALOT WORSE

Don't believe me..no problem ..DO THE RESEARCH and prove me wrong..

Don't need charts..pretty much like polls..BUT here's the video in your face..JUST WATCH for yourselves... smokin

It's IRREFUTABLE!

Edited by tombraider on Mon 04/08/19 01:38 PM

hardBNhard

Mon 04/08/19 01:43 PM

BOOM

Charles1962150

Mon 04/08/19 01:44 PM

The sky is falling , THE SKY IS FALLING ! scared

What does Jussy Smollett have to do with any of this?

I wish fear mongering crap like this wasn't allowed on a thread. This serves no purpose but to try to inflame others with false information. It serves no purpose but to try to scare people into believing this far fetched crap. With absolutely ZERO to back it up. On top of that Jussy Smollett has nothing to do with any of this. It's just another fear mongering tactic to try to take peoples eyes off of the real problem. Trump and his craziness, and crookedness. And how he is running our government.

Edited by Charles1962150 on Mon 04/08/19 01:47 PM

hardBNhard

Mon 04/08/19 01:46 PM

Second barrel
BOOM ! explode

hardBNhard

Mon 04/08/19 01:49 PM

The sky is falling , THE SKY IS FALLING ! scared

I wish fear mongering crap like this wasn't allowed on a thread. This serves no purpose but to try to inflame others with false information. It serves no purpose but to try to scare people into believing this far fetched crap. With absolutely ZERO to back it up. On top of that Jussy Smollett has nothing to do with any of this. It's just another fear mongering tactic to try to take peoples eyes off of the real problem. Trump and his craziness, and crookedness. And how he is running our government.

BOOM BOOM BOOM explode

Will he ever be right about ANYTHING Charles ? laugh

hardBNhard

Mon 04/08/19 01:50 PM

Edited by hardBNhard on Mon 04/08/19 01:52 PM

tombraider

Mon 04/08/19 01:57 PM

This isn't about Trump this is about the border crossing and the danger it poses to FAMILIES..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9-cbEe6vo

where's that Russian Collusion.. where's that obstruction? BOOOM!!

More Of Repeated Obfuscating News continued by the dems..capital letters are key here.. rofl

Edited by tombraider on Mon 04/08/19 02:01 PM