Topic: Bye Bye to Earth Aaaand Living on Moon !!!
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Laska Paul

Tue 03/02/21 11:53 PM

Earth is hurtling towards a Catastrophe worse than the Dinasour Extinctions . In such a Horrible situation , If there is a possible Life on Moon would you prefer to Live on Moon with your Family ???????? think think think think think
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Blondey111

Wed 03/03/21 02:01 AM

Where will I surf ????
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Luca

Wed 03/03/21 02:28 AM

I have my own spaceship, in case of catastrophe I can choose where to go... probably somewhere around betelgeuse
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Poetrywriter

Wed 03/03/21 09:16 AM


Where will I surf ????


Bath tub? laugh
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 03/03/21 09:28 AM

The Moon?
No way. Human technology is not even close to what would be needed even for a base, let alone to live there permanently.
Might as well stay put on this lil planet and accept fate.

Visiting a place is way different than living at a place, especially a place as barren and hostile to life as the Moon.
You would have a better chance at survival if you were dropped at the south pole naked. At least you could breathe and have protection from solar radiation and cosmic rays from the atmosphere before you froze to death.
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Totage

Wed 03/03/21 09:58 AM


Earth is hurtling towards a Catastrophe worse than the Dinasour Extinctions . In such a Horrible situation , If there is a possible Life on Moon would you prefer to Live on Moon with your Family ???????? think think think think think


Have you seen the moon? Even in a biodome of some sort, there's nothing stopping big ess meteors from slamming into you, all them huge jazz craters on the moon are evidence that moon life would be quite hostile.
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Rock

Wed 03/03/21 10:27 AM

I shall finish the game.
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Luca

Wed 03/03/21 10:39 AM

I think we should take a mathematical approach...
there is an hypotesis, (earth going towards a catastrophe). In maths an hypotesis is something taken for granted to be able to examine the consequences. As part of the hypotesis it is also stated that you will have a possibility to have a life on the moon (again, granted)
under this assumptions, of course I would go, but if anyone want to stay here and die for SURE because there are chances that on the moon would be hit by an asteroid, fine, stay! I'm going!
Of course if the discussion is based on different terms I'll revert to my initial position and fly to Betelgeuse...
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 03/03/21 10:46 AM

Yeah, last I checked, I live in reality.
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Luca

Wed 03/03/21 10:57 AM


Yeah, last I checked, I live in reality.

Good for you, but reality does not forbid to make hypotesis, however irrealistic they may appear. That's how we prepare for what is not realistic today but could be tomorrow or in a hundred years. don't you agree?
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 03/03/21 11:37 AM

At our present technology and species interest, living on the Moon is much further distant than 100 years.

Considering the fact we have no techology for heavy lift, repeating orbital flights nor the interest for finacial support. Then tack on a 1/4 million mile one-way trip and the ability to erect said habitat on the Moon which not only includes lifting materials but people AND supplies AND landing them on the Moon, erecting the habitat in hostile environment with limited room for success then returning to Earth and doing it all over again and again successfully within a limited window of survivability.

We haven't even started delivering unmanned material drops or surviival supplies. Its still a huge endeavor to send a few astronauts to the ISS for low earth orbit.
PLUS, we have yet to discover a method of protection from cosmic rays and solar radiation beyond the Van Allen Belt. Outside the Earth's magnetosphere even space is hazardous to humans for an extended period of time, even with our best protection measures.

Plus, due to wild temperature extremes any material you send there would need extreme hot to cold viability. The side in sunlight cooks while the side in shadow freezes. Metals and plastics without the ability to withstand such extremes quickly stress crack and become brittle. Rivets pop, welds pop and surfaces fracture. It happens already in aircraft over time that are not exposed to such extremes.

Its a pipe dream.
I'm not saying it is impossible.
I'm saying we as a species are not able to do it in any reasonable time frame without a major technological breakthru and a change in public priority.
Right now, if the ISS were suddenly cut off from ground support. Everyone on it would die.
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Luca

Wed 03/03/21 11:41 AM


At our present technology and species interest, living on the Moon is much further distant than 100 years.

Considering the fact we have no techology for heavy lift, repeating orbital flights nor the interest for finacial support. Then tack on a 1/4 million mile one-way trip and the ability to erect said habitat on the Moon which not only includes lifting materials but people AND supplies AND landing them on the Moon, erecting the habitat in hostile environment with limited room for success then returning to Earth and doing it all over again and again successfully within a limited window of survivability.

We haven't even started delivering unmanned material drops or surviival supplies. Its still a huge endeavor to send a few astronauts to the ISS for low earth orbit.
PLUS, we have yet to discover a method of protection from cosmic rays and solar radiation beyond the Van Allen Belt. Outside the Earth's magnetosphere even space is hazardous to humans for an extended period of time, even with our best protection measures.

Plus, due to wild temperature extremes any material you send there would need extreme hot to cold viability. The side in sunlight cooks while the side in shadow freezes. Metals and plastics without the ability to withstand such extremes quickly stress crack and become brittle. Rivets pop, welds pop and surfaces fracture. It happens already in aircraft over time that are not exposed to such extremes.

Its a pipe dream.
I'm not saying it is impossible.
I'm saying we as a species are not able to do it in any reasonable time frame without a major technological breakthru and a change in public priority.
Right now, if the ISS were suddenly cut off from ground support. Everyone on it would die.

Personally, I think speculation is the most important part of science.
I'm sorry if you don't see the point.
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Unknow

Wed 03/03/21 12:15 PM


Yeah, last I checked, I live in reality.


Same. I would not like to take my wife and children there. How about you Laska Paul?
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Tom4Uhere

Wed 03/03/21 12:20 PM

I see your point. Speculation is vital to discovery. However, theory must be founded on known science. Unfounded speculation is speculative fiction.

Speculative fiction is a broad category of fiction encompassing genres with certain elements that are nonexistent in terms of reality, recorded history, or nature and the present universe, covering various themes in the context of the supernatural, futuristic, and many other imaginative topics.

NASA speculates based on known science and available technology. Kennedy could not have proclaimed the goal of a man on the Moon unless there was technology progressing towards that outcome. The proclamation rallied national support which allowed the technology to be developed and implemented in such a short time.
But, it wasn't without failures and setbacks and after the Apollo program, we didn't continue with the idea of manned extraplanetary destinations.

We never went back.
We didn't even try to send supplies or equipment in advance of a new manned program. Because it costs too much money for too little payoff and there were too many hazards beyond our ability.

Its the same with speculation on space elevators and undersea cities. You don't see or hear about a transatlantic tunnel or a American hemisphere highway system. Unfounded speculation is speculative fiction and not science reality. We could have a transatlantic tunnel or a floating city. We could have an underwater city or a habitat on the Moon. But...There's still too much unknown in the way and no support to overcome it.
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Luca

Wed 03/03/21 12:28 PM


Earth is hurtling towards a Catastrophe worse than the Dinasour Extinctions . In such a Horrible situation , If there is a possible Life on Moon would you prefer to Live on Moon with your Family ???????? think think think think think
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motowndowntown

Wed 03/03/21 02:05 PM

The thing about living on the moon is it would be a real chore to take the dog out for a walk. It's enough of a PITA here during the winter when you have to dress like an Eskimo just to take out the trash.
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Totage

Wed 03/03/21 04:21 PM

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Poetrywriter

Wed 03/03/21 05:53 PM


I think we should take a mathematical approach...
there is an hypotesis, (earth going towards a catastrophe). In maths an hypotesis is something taken for granted to be able to examine the consequences. As part of the hypotesis it is also stated that you will have a possibility to have a life on the moon (again, granted)
under this assumptions, of course I would go, but if anyone want to stay here and die for SURE because there are chances that on the moon would be hit by an asteroid, fine, stay! I'm going!
Of course if the discussion is based on different terms I'll revert to my initial position and fly to Betelgeuse...


Not a good idea. Betelgeuse is a red supergiant star soon to go supernova, soon being in astronomical terms meaning within a million years. When it goes supernova anything close (within 25 ly) in it's path is doomed.
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Luca

Wed 03/03/21 10:41 PM



I think we should take a mathematical approach...
there is an hypotesis, (earth going towards a catastrophe). In maths an hypotesis is something taken for granted to be able to examine the consequences. As part of the hypotesis it is also stated that you will have a possibility to have a life on the moon (again, granted)
under this assumptions, of course I would go, but if anyone want to stay here and die for SURE because there are chances that on the moon would be hit by an asteroid, fine, stay! I'm going!
Of course if the discussion is based on different terms I'll revert to my initial position and fly to Betelgeuse...


Not a good idea. Betelgeuse is a red supergiant star soon to go supernova, soon being in astronomical terms meaning within a million years. When it goes supernova anything close (within 25 ly) in it's path is doomed.

I don't plan to stay there a million years, maximum one thousand, then I'd like to move on
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Tom4Uhere

Thu 03/04/21 09:03 AM

Well, when yer in Carl Sagan's Spaceship of the Imagination anything is possible but it doesn't mean its reality.