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Topic: Donald Trump's Misdeeds
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Dodo_David

Fri 02/18/22 01:26 PM



Click here to read the Politico story.

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Dodo_David

Fri 02/18/22 03:34 PM





Click here to read the Politico story.



This is current news.
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Dodo_David

Fri 02/18/22 05:18 PM

Uh, this is the Politics, Current News & Events forum.

Also, I posted news reports that are current.

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Richard

Fri 02/18/22 05:51 PM

I tried to copy the politico address and norton flagged it as a threat. if these are valid stories, post live links or adress's with out virus' warnings attached.
Edited by Richard on Fri 02/18/22 05:52 PM
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Bastet127

Fri 02/18/22 06:06 PM

If trump did in fact take classified documents to marlago upon leaving the oval office, people don’t see that as a problem?
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Richard

Fri 02/18/22 06:13 PM


If trump did in fact take classified documents to marlago upon leaving the oval office, people don’t see that as a problem?

from what I understand. the documents their seeking are personal documents, normally left for the presidential archives, for posterity.
and they are clasified because they are personal.
Edited by Richard on Fri 02/18/22 06:16 PM
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Bastet127

Fri 02/18/22 06:14 PM



At some point the left has to own what it elected. This " deferment " to Trump.. is old

clicked the tiny link , and it lead to the old story nothing new, just smoke and mirrors trying to find something that is not there.


I found it on foxnews website, posted 2 hours ago. Also, ap, reuters, nbcnews, oregon news, and a bunch of others. National Archives has confirmed and said some are “national security” confidential.
Edited by Bastet127 on Fri 02/18/22 06:19 PM
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Richard

Fri 02/18/22 06:17 PM




At some point the left has to own what it elected. This " deferment " to Trump.. is old

clicked the tiny link , and it lead to the old story nothing new, just smoke and mirrors trying to find something that is not there.


I found it on foxnews website, posted 2 hours ago. Also, ap, reuters, nbcnews, oregon news, and a bunch of others. National Archives has confirmed.

asked and aswered read my above reply. these are not national secrets
Edited by Richard on Fri 02/18/22 06:20 PM
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Bastet127

Fri 02/18/22 06:20 PM





At some point the left has to own what it elected. This " deferment " to Trump.. is old

clicked the tiny link , and it lead to the old story nothing new, just smoke and mirrors trying to find something that is not there.


I found it on foxnews website, posted 2 hours ago. Also, ap, reuters, nbcnews, oregon news, and a bunch of others. National Archives has confirmed.

asked and aswered read my above reply.


edited my response to include what foxnews had posted.
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Fri 02/18/22 06:39 PM

This
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soufiehere

Fri 02/18/22 07:00 PM

Edited for off-topic.
If you do not like the thread, post elsewhere.

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Mortman

Sat 02/19/22 10:09 AM





At some point the left has to own what it elected. This " deferment " to Trump.. is old

clicked the tiny link , and it lead to the old story nothing new, just smoke and mirrors trying to find something that is not there.


I found it on foxnews website, posted 2 hours ago. Also, ap, reuters, nbcnews, oregon news, and a bunch of others. National Archives has confirmed.

asked and aswered read my above reply. these are not national secrets

Right. Just mishandling classified documents. The same thing for which Republicans launched investigations and hearings against Hillary Clinton. They still chant "Lock her up!"
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Richard

Sat 02/19/22 12:39 PM






At some point the left has to own what it elected. This " deferment " to Trump.. is old

clicked the tiny link , and it lead to the old story nothing new, just smoke and mirrors trying to find something that is not there.


I found it on foxnews website, posted 2 hours ago. Also, ap, reuters, nbcnews, oregon news, and a bunch of others. National Archives has confirmed.

asked and aswered read my above reply. these are not national secrets

Right. Just mishandling classified documents. The same thing for which Republicans launched investigations and hearings against Hillary Clinton. They still chant "Lock her up!"

LOL. I'm willing to see how this plays out.. it is still being investigated. as for hillary.. she was actually caught destroying files. and with internal classified documents on her personal computer servers she had in her home and still walked.
Edited by Richard on Sat 02/19/22 01:23 PM
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moses

Sat 02/19/22 09:28 PM

BS. trump tied to send 20000 national guard troops to the capitol Pelosi turned it down.I'm so tired of this
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Unknow

Sat 02/19/22 10:26 PM

no he did not and you have zero proof that he tried to send troops to help out, he was busy watching TV and cheering his deplorables on and then rewinding and watching it over, in any other nation he would be in prison by now or facing a firing squad
if you proof includes FAUX news links well they are fake just like traitor45 as a fake president only thing he got passed was tax cuts for the rich. how many infrastructure weeks did he have?
Basically denying the pandemic and letting thousands more die than had to die.
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Redrider1500

Sun 02/20/22 02:03 AM


BS. trump tied to send 20000 national guard troops to the capitol Pelosi turned it down.I'm so tired of this


So am I. Along with Harris claiming to be in the White house that day, when she was really at the DNC offices. How can you feel threatened when you aren't there?
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Bastet127

Sun 02/20/22 11:50 AM


BS. trump tied to send 20000 national guard troops to the capitol Pelosi turned it down.I'm so tired of this


Pelosi doesn’t even have the power to turn down such a request even if he had.
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Smartazzjohn

Sun 02/20/22 01:16 PM

The Capitol Police (USCP) is charged with protecting the United States Congress. It answers to the Capitol Police Board who are appointed by the legislative branch of the federal government of the United States.

The Capital Police Board consists of three voting members: the Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives, the Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate, the Architect of the Capitol, and chief of the Capitol Police who is a non-voting member of the board.

The Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives is under the direction of the Speaker of the House or other presiding officer, the Sergeant at Arms plays an integral role in maintaining order and decorum in the House chamber.

The Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the United States Senate and is the protocol officer, executive officer, and highest-ranking federal law enforcement officer of the Senate of the United States.

The Architect of the Capitol is the federal agency responsible for the maintenance, operation, development, and preservation of the United States Capitol Complex.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/25/facebook-posts/no-capitol-security-not-only-pelosis-responsibilit/



Capitol security is not solely the responsibility of the House speaker. It is provided by the sergeants-at-arms of the House and Senate, and by the Capitol Police.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader — on Jan. 6, Sen. Mitch McConnell.

News reports indicate that in the days before the attack, House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of “optics.” Irving later testified that intelligence reports didn’t show the need for the extra security, not that he rejected it because of optics.

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Was Pelosi responsible for the National Guard not being there on January 6th? Maybe not directly but Irving who "is under the direction of the Speaker of the House" didn't want the National Guard present even after the Capital Police asked to bring in the National Guard for extra security.





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Bastet127

Sun 02/20/22 04:30 PM


The Capitol Police (USCP) is charged with protecting the United States Congress. It answers to the Capitol Police Board who are appointed by the legislative branch of the federal government of the United States.

The Capital Police Board consists of three voting members: the Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives, the Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate, the Architect of the Capitol, and chief of the Capitol Police who is a non-voting member of the board.

The Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives is under the direction of the Speaker of the House or other presiding officer, the Sergeant at Arms plays an integral role in maintaining order and decorum in the House chamber.

The Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the United States Senate and is the protocol officer, executive officer, and highest-ranking federal law enforcement officer of the Senate of the United States.

The Architect of the Capitol is the federal agency responsible for the maintenance, operation, development, and preservation of the United States Capitol Complex.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/25/facebook-posts/no-capitol-security-not-only-pelosis-responsibilit/



Capitol security is not solely the responsibility of the House speaker. It is provided by the sergeants-at-arms of the House and Senate, and by the Capitol Police.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader — on Jan. 6, Sen. Mitch McConnell.

News reports indicate that in the days before the attack, House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of “optics.” Irving later testified that intelligence reports didn’t show the need for the extra security, not that he rejected it because of optics.

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Was Pelosi responsible for the National Guard not being there on January 6th? Maybe not directly but Irving who "is under the direction of the Speaker of the House" didn't want the National Guard present even after the Capital Police asked to bring in the National Guard for extra security.








So as I said, Pelosi did not have the power to make that decision. :thumbsup:
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Smartazzjohn

Sun 02/20/22 08:33 PM



The Capitol Police (USCP) is charged with protecting the United States Congress. It answers to the Capitol Police Board who are appointed by the legislative branch of the federal government of the United States.

The Capital Police Board consists of three voting members: the Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives, the Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate, the Architect of the Capitol, and chief of the Capitol Police who is a non-voting member of the board.

The to bring in the National Guard for extra security of the United States House of Representatives is under the direction of the Speaker of the House or other presiding officer, the Sergeant at Arms plays an integral role in maintaining order and decorum in the House chamber.

The Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the United States Senate and is the protocol officer, executive officer, and highest-ranking federal law enforcement officer of the Senate of the United States.

The Architect of the Capitol is the federal agency responsible for the maintenance, operation, development, and preservation of the United States Capitol Complex.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/25/facebook-posts/no-capitol-security-not-only-pelosis-responsibilit/



Capitol security is not solely the responsibility of the House speaker. It is provided by the sergeants-at-arms of the House and Senate, and by the Capitol Police.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader — on Jan. 6, Sen. Mitch McConnell.

News reports indicate that in the days before the attack, House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of “optics.” Irving later testified that intelligence reports didn’t show the need for the extra security, not that he rejected it because of optics.

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Was Pelosi responsible for the National Guard not being there on January 6th? Maybe not directly but Irving who "is under the direction of the Speaker of the House" didn't want the National Guard present even after the Capital Police asked to bring in the National Guard for extra security.








So as I said, Pelosi did not have the power to make that decision. :thumbsup:


Capitol security is not SOLELY the responsibility of Pelosi....but that DOESN'T mean she doesn't have ANY responsibility, she IS part of the chain of command regarding security. The House sergeant-at-arms acts under the direction of Pelosi and since he WOULDN'T act on the request of the Chief of the Capital Police to bring in the National Guard Pelosi at the very least is indirectly responsible.....and if she KNEW the Chief of the Capital Police requested the National Guard she is directly responsible.

Pelosi DID have the power to request that the National Guard be called to the Capital.....there is NO evidence that she even made the request.