Remember; hands over ears and repeat nay-nay-nay


Look out, facts coming up............How about the days of Bush Jr's cocaine bust?

If a person commits a murder and is never charged it doesn't mean they are innocent.....it means they
A) Haven't been caught
B) There isn't enough evidence to be charged and/or convicted in a criminal court.

Even if a person is charged with a crime it doesn't mean they ARE "innocent until proven guilty". During a CRIMINAL trial "due process" dictates that there is a "PRESUMPTION of innocents" UNTIL the government "PROVES BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT" that a defendant is guilty.
A "not guilty" verdict in criminal court ISN'T PROOF of innocence.

But while in "criminal case" there CAN be NO doubt about guilt for a "guilty" verdict to be handed down that ISN'T the metric for "civil cases" where defendant CAN be found guilty/responsible by a PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE. In "civil cases" the standard is the evidence shows it's "more likely than not" that the defendant is guilty/responsible for a crime.

There are times when a person is found "not guilty" in a criminal trial and is found guilty/responsible of the SAME crime in civil court.

Political polarization, perception gaps, sensationalism has always existed, but media today has certainly created what we see today. People forget that media is business, they want to make money, and sensationalism sells. Tolerance for others’ opinion has morphed from disagreeing to entire political parties needing to be stopped. Our democracy is built on a system intended to work no matter what party holds power. Wingers are but a small portion of Americans, yet media has some believing it’s all democrats, all republicans, which is ridiculous. Those people are, as you said, the one-dimensional, and you just have to chalk that up to, I wouldn’t say uneducated, but, unaware, with a profound inability to see reality.

Very well said!

That’s the difference between adults and children .

This coming from someone that has referred to others as clueless foreigners and the bimbo class. Laughable.

Yes, I will always call out someone for making false ridiculous comments about an entire country and it’s citizens . Sorry about the bimbo comment , but no one’s apologized for calling the US citizens racists.

The point with you Bartholomew is you're always fanatically for one side, yours.
You can't have a debate or discussion with you because you'll just cover your ears and refuse to hear any other viewpoints. You are truly fanatical and the type to follow a Mussolini, Hitler or Trump.

The point with you Bartholomew is you're always fanatically for one side, yours.
You can't have a debate or discussion with you because you'll just cover your ears and refuse to hear any other viewpoints. You are truly fanatical and the type to follow a Mussolini, Hitler or Trump.

So as you see some_what_pushover, this "discussion" has degenerated into name calling, the last bastion of the truly "faithful" on both sides of any issue.

Perhaps you have a very short memory or are also anti-facts.
Trump is just a figurehead but has already produced clones and I'm afraid we'll be fighting them for the foreseeable future.
You'll be able to recognize them easily, they'll be posing with dead fish.............

Perhaps you have a very short memory or are also anti-facts.
Trump is just a figurehead but has already produced clones and I'm afraid we'll be fighting them for the foreseeable future.
You'll be able to recognize them easily, they'll be posing with dead fish.............

The OP asks.....
"As the tittle suggest, I don’t understand certain types of political people. Can you provide me with an explanation of their rationale?"

To understand the "rationale" of certain types of "political people" one only has to look at what many Americans DON'T know about the government.

In 2021 a study showed only 42 percent of Americans could pass the U.S. Citizenship Test and sadly that is up 6 percent from a study 3 years earlier. As a "naturalized" citizen myself, who had no trouble passing the test, I find this rather troubling because just a BASIC knowledge of the government was needed.

In 2019 a survey by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania, only 39 percent of Americans can name all three branches of government. The survey showed 22 percent of Americans could not even name one branch of government and only 14 percent could name two branches.

I don't have kids in school now so I have no idea of what is and isn't being taught to kids today. But surveys lead me to believe that a serious look at the k-12 civics/government curriculum needs to done.

So as you see some_what_pushover, this "discussion" has degenerated into name calling, the last bastion of the truly "faithful" on both sides of any issue.

Really? You have to resort to me posing with fish as a retort to the actual fact that YOU incessantly mention Trump and that he is obviously living in your head? Pathetically juvenile.

I wasn't a fan, and I'm still not a fan, of Trump's rhetoric. Personally I didn't/don't watch his rallies because I didn't/don't like listening to him. I'm not a fan of Biden either so I don't listen to him because I don't believe what he's reading from a teleprompter that someone else wrote....and also largely because I feel bad for him since he seems to be in cognitive decline.

But unlike some people I don't care about personalities of ANY president, I care about RESULTS OF THEIR POLICIES.

What are facts about what has RESULTED since the Biden administrations instituted policies:
1)There has been a dramatic increase in ILLEGAL crossings at the southern border.
2)There has been a dramatic increase in gas and oil prices.....which the Biden administration blamed initially on "big oil". Now it's being blamed on Putin.
3)Inflation, which was originally called "transitory" AKA temporary, by the Biden administration has continued to increase at decade high rates. Now it's being blamed on Putin.

No matter what happens Biden and his administration gaslights and plays the "blame game" for EVERY problem that is the RESULT of policies THEY enacted.

Now Biden is saying that sanctions DON'T deter when questioned by the media during his European trip when his spokespeople have said publicly MANY times that sanctions were deterrents. Now since the sanctions DIDN'T have the deterrent effect of the original rhetoric the rhetoric is changing.

I'm no ones clone...I'm an independent person who isn't a zealot to any political party or a lapdog who defends or condemns any politician based on political affiliation.