Topic: Trump's case going to the Supreme Court
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Bart

Thu 12/28/23 04:27 AM


The differance being what? Because the left says joe didn’t deliberately take them,how do you or they know that. It’s because of your hatred for Trump it distorts your definition of fairness. Ask any 10 people and 8 of them will tell you yes, there is a two tiered justice system leveled against Trump and his followers
You're right. I don't know that Biden didn't intentionally take those documents and deliberately stashed them in his university office and garage hidden among various other documents and notes, hoping NARA never came asking for them, and then one of his bumbling attorneys came across his stash, and Biden had to play dumb and pretend he had no idea and directed his attorney to cover it up and notify NARA to arrange returning the docs.

The difference is that Biden didn't have to be asked for the documents. Biden didn't show off his documents to unauthorized people or foreigners and Biden didn't blow off the FBI or NARA and obstruct the investigation into the misplaced documents. Trump did all that. You can Google it.

Everything you claim is just pure speculation . Its hear say. It’s the Biden DOJ and his comrades including the liberal media trying their best to discredit Trump or anybody else looking to replace him as president. Just look at how they cheat and discredit other democrats running for office of the president. Nothing has been proven and Trump said he did nothing wrong… You can believe it or not but but the numbers tell the story.. Americans by far believe Joe Biden is the most corrupt president in our life time..Why would anyone ‘ except a democrat ‘ believe any social media site after the Biden DOJ has pressured them to censor info that may dispute their claims . We don’t know how often NARA asked Biden for those papers he had. You would think that after twenty years or so after Joe was out of the senate , that NARA would have asked for the missing documents.. The claims of Joe being a innocent participant just doesn’t comprehend…
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Mortman

Thu 12/28/23 12:07 PM

Everything you claim is just pure speculation . Its hear say. It’s the Biden DOJ and his comrades including the liberal media trying their best to discredit Trump or anybody else looking to replace him as president. Just look at how they cheat and discredit other democrats running for office of the president. Nothing has been proven and Trump said he did nothing wrong… You can believe it or not but but the numbers tell the story.. Americans by far believe Joe Biden is the most corrupt president in our life time..Why would anyone ‘ except a democrat ‘ believe any social media site after the Biden DOJ has pressured them to censor info that may dispute their claims . We don’t know how often NARA asked Biden for those papers he had. You would think that after twenty years or so after Joe was out of the senate , that NARA would have asked for the missing documents.. The claims of Joe being a innocent participant just doesn’t comprehend…
All I have to go on is news reports, since I don't personally know Trump or Biden or any other character involved. Publicly available reports show Biden's attorneys discovered his classified documents but did not explain the level of classification, which leads me to believe they were not super serious documents. Possibly classified to protect proprietary information or personal identities.

In the Army I got all sorts of classified documents given to me, and instead of turning them in when we finished using them, we were told to just shred those docs. If I was in a meeting using those docs and took notes, I had to shred my notes, too. I imagine that's the kind of documents Biden had. Some sheets with the words "SECRET/NOFORN" stamped across the top & bottom. No issuing facility would ask for that back, but an uninitiated attorney would dutifully report it.

National defense documents like war plans or those describing secret military systems, like Trump has been reported (not by the DOJ) to have improperly shared, are a much higher level than Secret/noforn. Maybe you don't see the difference but it's huge!

If Biden is seen as corrupt, it's only because Right Wing Media is repeating unfounded claims against Biden every day. Years of investigations and no evidence. They lie about businesses like Dominion and Smartmatic, they get a lawsuit and pay hundreds of $millions in penalties, but lie about Biden and get $billions in ad revenue. No surprises. NARA never had to beg for documents. Only arranged for pickup.
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Thu 12/28/23 04:21 PM


Everything you claim is just pure speculation . Its hear say. It’s the Biden DOJ and his comrades including the liberal media trying their best to discredit Trump or anybody else looking to replace him as president. Just look at how they cheat and discredit other democrats running for office of the president. Nothing has been proven and Trump said he did nothing wrong… You can believe it or not but but the numbers tell the story.. Americans by far believe Joe Biden is the most corrupt president in our life time..Why would anyone ‘ except a democrat ‘ believe any social media site after the Biden DOJ has pressured them to censor info that may dispute their claims . We don’t know how often NARA asked Biden for those papers he had. You would think that after twenty years or so after Joe was out of the senate , that NARA would have asked for the missing documents.. The claims of Joe being a innocent participant just doesn’t comprehend…
All I have to go on is news reports, since I don't personally know Trump or Biden or any other character involved. Publicly available reports show Biden's attorneys discovered his classified documents but did not explain the level of classification, which leads me to believe they were not super serious documents. Possibly classified to protect proprietary information or personal identities.

In the Army I got all sorts of classified documents given to me, and instead of turning them in when we finished using them, we were told to just shred those docs. If I was in a meeting using those docs and took notes, I had to shred my notes, too. I imagine that's the kind of documents Biden had. Some sheets with the words "SECRET/NOFORN" stamped across the top & bottom. No issuing facility would ask for that back, but an uninitiated attorney would dutifully report it.

National defense documents like war plans or those describing secret military systems, like Trump has been reported (not by the DOJ) to have improperly shared, are a much higher level than Secret/noforn. Maybe you don't see the difference but it's huge!

If Biden is seen as corrupt, it's only because Right Wing Media is repeating unfounded claims against Biden every day. Years of investigations and no evidence. They lie about businesses like Dominion and Smartmatic, they get a lawsuit and pay hundreds of $millions in penalties, but lie about Biden and get $billions in ad revenue. No surprises. NARA never had to beg for documents. Only arranged for pickup.

I couldn’t agree more, the claims against Biden are unfounded. and, and ,, The claims against Trump are unfounded. Especially the Russian collusion claim.. one thing I don’t understand is why is it ok for Joe to have papers from his senate days and why so long away from archives dept. with no request for return in all those years. I thought for senators to view top secret docs. they were to view them in a special room and the docs. never left that room.. To believe Trump gave away military secrets is like believing Biden should be the captain of the High IQ Bowl squad..virtually impossible..Trump is like all braggarts ,they like to embellish in the company of friends ..remember the Billy Bush recording.. taken out of context of course..unproven allegations aren’t necessarily lies as you report is coming from conservatives..
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Mortman

Sat 12/30/23 05:46 PM

I couldn’t agree more, the claims against Biden are unfounded. and, and ,, The claims against Trump are unfounded. Especially the Russian collusion claim.. one thing I don’t understand is why is it ok for Joe to have papers from his senate days and why so long away from archives dept. with no request for return in all those years. I thought for senators to view top secret docs. they were to view them in a special room and the docs. never left that room.. To believe Trump gave away military secrets is like believing Biden should be the captain of the High IQ Bowl squad..virtually impossible..Trump is like all braggarts ,they like to embellish in the company of friends ..remember the Billy Bush recording.. taken out of context of course..unproven allegations aren’t necessarily lies as you report is coming from conservatives..

The reason Joe's docs went so long unnoticed is probably due to the nature of those docs. There are several levels of classification, and a document marked "classified" or "noforn" is much less serious than "top secret" or higher. Yes, to see the serious stuff, you look at that stuff in a "SCIF" and it doesn't leave with you, but a paper a Senator could have been handed would be called "classified" even after all the most sensitive stuff was redacted. If Biden's documents were as serious as some of the ones we hear Trump had, then yes, NARA would be keeping careful track of it. Even describing classified documents is prohibited in most cases, so we're not hearing government officials say what Biden or Trump had, even if most of it was not so highly classified. We'll probably never hear exactly how many classified, secret or top secret documents Biden had in his garage, for example. Even while Trump is getting charged, the government isn't counting ALL the docs he had. They're only charging him for a representative subset, so they don't have to expose the most sensitive stuff in any way.

Incidentally, the Oval Office is a secure facility and Trump famously left that stuff on his desk to look important and cool. Even when he invited foreign leaders into his office.
Edited by Mortman on Sat 12/30/23 05:49 PM
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Unknow

Sat 12/30/23 06:30 PM

The Biden Organized Crime Family
and the Satanic Communist Democrat Party Politicians
are Destroying America
Economically and Morally.
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Mortman

Sat 12/30/23 07:37 PM

The Biden Organized Crime Family
and the Satanic Communist Democrat Party Politicians
are Destroying America
Economically and Morally.

Wrong. President Biden got $trillions invested into the national infrastructure. Unemployment is near record lows and the stock market is hitting record highs. That's not destruction. Democrats aren't the ones trying to shut down the government to get what they want.

Morally, the Republicans are the ones running counter to their old "law and order" label. Trump is a criminal, found to have engaged or supported insurrection in a court, currently awaiting trial for 91 felonies, yet is still leading the field of Republican candidates. And the charges aren't even political; they're criminal charges with plenty of evidence and witnesses lining up to testify against DJT. It seems, Carlos, that you've got it backwards.
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Bart

Sun 12/31/23 05:25 AM


The Biden Organized Crime Family
and the Satanic Communist Democrat Party Politicians
are Destroying America
Economically and Morally.

Wrong. President Biden got $trillions invested into the national infrastructure. Unemployment is near record lows and the stock market is hitting record highs. That's not destruction. Democrats aren't the ones trying to shut down the government to get what they want.

Morally, the Republicans are the ones running counter to their old "law and order" label. Trump is a criminal, found to have engaged or supported insurrection in a court, currently awaiting trial for 91 felonies, yet is still leading the field of Republican candidates. And the charges aren't even political; they're criminal charges with plenty of evidence and witnesses lining up to testify against DJT. It seems, Carlos, that you've got it backwards.

You keep referring to Trump as being found to have engaged in or supported insurrection. What court has ‘ found’ him guilty of those allegations. Why is your opinion always Trump IS guilty but Biden ISN’T guilty when neither one has been convicted of their charges?…Not only is Trump leading the Republican candidates, but he’s leading ALL presidential candidates including Biden… I think it’s because of the economy which is not good for the majority of Americans , but also the border. A major crisis that the Biden administration seems to be ignoring or it’s part of his agenda to turn this country into something unappealing to most of us..This is why Joe has been labeled the WORST president ever.. he also is on the list of most over rated presidents along with Obama, FDR and Woodrow Wilson and JFK.. The most under rated is Cooledge, Trump , Clinton , Eisenhower and Reagan…
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Unknow

Sun 12/31/23 05:40 AM

yeah you love joe and dems so much you blind

you see right, but your so blind without reason you can see the facts. its like you cult you follow, same news of hate, same websites that insult people. you dont see it, but we do.

you only listen to the far left networks, cause you love violence, yelling, bullying, lying. since you see no problem with it.

likewise how joe spend money,you see no problem with that. yes i know why.
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Mortman

Sun 12/31/23 07:50 AM

You keep referring to Trump as being found to have engaged in or supported insurrection. What court has ‘ found’ him guilty of those allegations. Why is your opinion always Trump IS guilty but Biden ISN’T guilty when neither one has been convicted of their charges?…Not only is Trump leading the Republican candidates, but he’s leading ALL presidential candidates including Biden… I think it’s because of the economy which is not good for the majority of Americans , but also the border. A major crisis that the Biden administration seems to be ignoring or it’s part of his agenda to turn this country into something unappealing to most of us..This is why Joe has been labeled the WORST president ever.. he also is on the list of most over rated presidents along with Obama, FDR and Woodrow Wilson and JFK.. The most under rated is Cooledge, Trump , Clinton , Eisenhower and Reagan…

Trump was found by a court in Colorado to have engaged and/or supported insurrection. You can do a web search on it. Here's a link to CREW's statement.

The reason I say Trump is guilty and Biden isn't is because while both have been under investigation for years, we have actual indictments and evidence and witnesses, and I've actually heard the recordings of Trump breaking the law in a few cases. I guess you consider those recordings "fake news." Obviously, it's my opinion, but I follow those stories closely and see neither credible evidence against Biden, nor a credible defense proposed by Trump's attorneys.

Lastly, the Southern border is a mess, but US Immigration law isn't all on the President. Maybe because the USA is great is why they're coming, so yeah, guilty of that charge. But if Congress wants US immigration reform, they need to pass those laws. The President can't just arrest every brown person entering the country asking for asylum; that would be illegal.
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Bart

Sun 12/31/23 08:34 AM


You keep referring to Trump as being found to have engaged in or supported insurrection. What court has ‘ found’ him guilty of those allegations. Why is your opinion always Trump IS guilty but Biden ISN’T guilty when neither one has been convicted of their charges?…Not only is Trump leading the Republican candidates, but he’s leading ALL presidential candidates including Biden… I think it’s because of the economy which is not good for the majority of Americans , but also the border. A major crisis that the Biden administration seems to be ignoring or it’s part of his agenda to turn this country into something unappealing to most of us..This is why Joe has been labeled the WORST president ever.. he also is on the list of most over rated presidents along with Obama, FDR and Woodrow Wilson and JFK.. The most under rated is Cooledge, Trump , Clinton , Eisenhower and Reagan…

Trump was found by a court in Colorado to have engaged and/or supported insurrection. You can do a web search on it. Here's a link to CREW's statement.

The reason I say Trump is guilty and Biden isn't is because while both have been under investigation for years, we have actual indictments and evidence and witnesses, and I've actually heard the recordings of Trump breaking the law in a few cases. I guess you consider those recordings "fake news." Obviously, it's my opinion, but I follow those stories closely and see neither credible evidence against Biden, nor a credible defense proposed by Trump's attorneys.

Lastly, the Southern border is a mess, but US Immigration law isn't all on the President. Maybe because the USA is great is why they're coming, so yeah, guilty of that charge. But if Congress wants US immigration reform, they need to pass those laws. The President can't just arrest every brown person entering the country asking for asylum; that would be illegal.


He could build the wall or turn people around at the border , Trump had them waiting in Mexico until their asylum case could be heard and that one law stopped the massive flow from coming this way . But he is just speaking the words we want to hear while doing the opposite. You say you have heard Trump on a recording breaking the law. Are you a voice detection expert? Just thinking it might be somebody isn’t enough to convict someone on, but I think you have a hard time remembering that Mr. Trump is a American citizen , and even he is afforded the rights that our constitution gives every citizen..There is eveidence and witnesses in the Biden scandal, just because his DOJ and his media ignore witness testimony under oath involving Biden to several incidents that smell of criminality , I guess we should all view it as ‘ just another coincidence.. I don’t think so..
And the court in colored was as credible as the jan2nd committee hearing. Trump was not found guilty of anything to do with a insurrection..
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Mortman

Sun 12/31/23 09:53 AM

He could build the wall or turn people around at the border , Trump had them waiting in Mexico until their asylum case could be heard and that one law stopped the massive flow from coming this way . But he is just speaking the words we want to hear while doing the opposite. You say you have heard Trump on a recording breaking the law. Are you a voice detection expert? Just thinking it might be somebody isn’t enough to convict someone on, but I think you have a hard time remembering that Mr. Trump is a American citizen , and even he is afforded the rights that our constitution gives every citizen..There is eveidence and witnesses in the Biden scandal, just because his DOJ and his media ignore witness testimony under oath involving Biden to several incidents that smell of criminality , I guess we should all view it as ‘ just another coincidence.. I don’t think so..
And the court in colored was as credible as the jan2nd committee hearing. Trump was not found guilty of anything to do with a insurrection..

No, I'm my opinion is not being used in court as expert testimony, but there's also no credible evidence that the voices in those recordings aren't Trump, either. Of course Trump gets due process, so he's not in prison, yet. No need to deny everything as "your opinion" here, because this is the Internet and nothing is verified. I'm just saying that I'm sure Trump is guilty from what I've seen, and I haven't seen anything showing that Biden is guilty of anything but doing his job.

The court in Colorado was not a criminal court, but rather a civil court because the plaintiffs sued to have Trump disqualified.Trump couldn't be found "guilty" in the legal sense. He was only shown to have engaged in insurrection, and his lawyers failed to disprove that. Hence, I don't say "Trump is guilty of insurrection" but rather, Trump was found in court to have engaged in insurrection. Do you see the difference?

One main difference is that insurrection is not a Colorado state law, so insurrection would have to be tried at the federal level, while elections are not federal (even though offices are) so Trump getting disqualified can only happen at the state level. There are a dozen other states working through whether to disqualify Trump from their ballots, too, including Texas and South Carolina.

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Bart

Sun 12/31/23 11:23 AM


He could build the wall or turn people around at the border , Trump had them waiting in Mexico until their asylum case could be heard and that one law stopped the massive flow from coming this way . But he is just speaking the words we want to hear while doing the opposite. You say you have heard Trump on a recording breaking the law. Are you a voice detection expert? Just thinking it might be somebody isn’t enough to convict someone on, but I think you have a hard time remembering that Mr. Trump is a American citizen , and even he is afforded the rights that our constitution gives every citizen..There is eveidence and witnesses in the Biden scandal, just because his DOJ and his media ignore witness testimony under oath involving Biden to several incidents that smell of criminality , I guess we should all view it as ‘ just another coincidence.. I don’t think so..
And the court in colored was as credible as the jan2nd committee hearing. Trump was not found guilty of anything to do with a insurrection..

No, I'm my opinion is not being used in court as expert testimony, but there's also no credible evidence that the voices in those recordings aren't Trump, either. Of course Trump gets due process, so he's not in prison, yet. No need to deny everything as "your opinion" here, because this is the Internet and nothing is verified. I'm just saying that I'm sure Trump is guilty from what I've seen, and I haven't seen anything showing that Biden is guilty of anything but doing his job.

The court in Colorado was not a criminal court, but rather a civil court because the plaintiffs sued to have Trump disqualified.Trump couldn't be found "guilty" in the legal sense. He was only shown to have engaged in insurrection, and his lawyers failed to disprove that. Hence, I don't say "Trump is guilty of insurrection" but rather, Trump was found in court to have engaged in insurrection. Do you see the difference?

One main difference is that insurrection is not a Colorado state law, so insurrection would have to be tried at the federal level, while elections are not federal (even though offices are) so Trump getting disqualified can only happen at the state level. There are a dozen other states working through whether to disqualify Trump from their ballots, too, including Texas and South Carolina.




I know about the many other states that will try to keep him off the ballot but they are waiting to see if the SCOTUS will take this case and rule it unconstitutional which most experts believe will happen . I hope a ruling does keep Trump on the ballot but these states don’t want to ruffle the feathers of any constituents if they don’t have to. Just another case of the democrat politicians not having the backbone to stand up for what they say. If they had any integrity they would go ahead and rule him off the ballot like Maine did… saying’ protest peacefully is not instigating a insurrection and the timing of his message to go home has nothing to do with insurrection. I don’t see any differance, it’s all a witch hunt from that day Jan 6 till now..it’s the way a person perceives that event. Many see it as a protest against a suspiciously run election because of the last second rule changes that were put in place because of covid by the democrat electors and judgesof each state with very little thought as to the process or the outcome . No different than the carnage that went on after the death of George Floyd. Some democrat politicians enticed those riots or protests . It’s how you perceive the incident.
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Mortman

Sun 12/31/23 02:15 PM

I know about the many other states that will try to keep him off the ballot but they are waiting to see if the SCOTUS will take this case and rule it unconstitutional which most experts believe will happen . I hope a ruling does keep Trump on the ballot but these states don’t want to ruffle the feathers of any constituents if they don’t have to. Just another case of the democrat politicians not having the backbone to stand up for what they say. If they had any integrity they would go ahead and rule him off the ballot like Maine did… saying’ protest peacefully is not instigating a insurrection and the timing of his message to go home has nothing to do with insurrection. I don’t see any differance, it’s all a witch hunt from that day Jan 6 till now..it’s the way a person perceives that event. Many see it as a protest against a suspiciously run election because of the last second rule changes that were put in place because of covid by the democrat electors and judgesof each state with very little thought as to the process or the outcome . No different than the carnage that went on after the death of George Floyd. Some democrat politicians enticed those riots or protests . It’s how you perceive the incident.

1. The Colorado lawsuit was not brought by Democrats but by Republican and unaffiliated voters.
2. The George Floyd protests were not encouraged by Democratic politicians. If you've got evidence otherwise, I'd like to see it.
3. Allowing absentee voting was not done at the "last second" as those states had every right to change their laws, especially to reduce crowding together during the pandemic, and in places where most didn't think they needed to wear masks. opponents had months to challenge the laws, but lacked justification in many cases. Absentee voting is cheaper to run and still very secure. Republicans just hate it because they do poorly when more people vote.
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Mr Good Guy

Sun 12/31/23 03:21 PM


I know about the many other states that will try to keep him off the ballot but they are waiting to see if the SCOTUS will take this case and rule it unconstitutional which most experts believe will happen . I hope a ruling does keep Trump on the ballot but these states don’t want to ruffle the feathers of any constituents if they don’t have to. Just another case of the democrat politicians not having the backbone to stand up for what they say. If they had any integrity they would go ahead and rule him off the ballot like Maine did… saying’ protest peacefully is not instigating a insurrection and the timing of his message to go home has nothing to do with insurrection. I don’t see any differance, it’s all a witch hunt from that day Jan 6 till now..it’s the way a person perceives that event. Many see it as a protest against a suspiciously run election because of the last second rule changes that were put in place because of covid by the democrat electors and judgesof each state with very little thought as to the process or the outcome . No different than the carnage that went on after the death of George Floyd. Some democrat politicians enticed those riots or protests . It’s how you perceive the incident.

1. The Colorado lawsuit was not brought by Democrats but by Republican and unaffiliated voters.
2. The George Floyd protests were not encouraged by Democratic politicians. If you've got evidence otherwise, I'd like to see it.
3. Allowing absentee voting was not done at the "last second" as those states had every right to change their laws, especially to reduce crowding together during the pandemic, and in places where most didn't think they needed to wear masks. opponents had months to challenge the laws, but lacked justification in many cases. Absentee voting is cheaper to run and still very secure. Republicans just hate it because they do poorly when more people vote.
#2, Kamala's official tweet: "If you’re able to, chip in now to the @MNFreedomFund to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota."

No, no support/encouragement there huh?
Edited by Mr Good Guy on Sun 12/31/23 03:41 PM
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Sun 12/31/23 03:26 PM


I know about the many other states that will try to keep him off the ballot but they are waiting to see if the SCOTUS will take this case and rule it unconstitutional which most experts believe will happen . I hope a ruling does keep Trump on the ballot but these states don’t want to ruffle the feathers of any constituents if they don’t have to. Just another case of the democrat politicians not having the backbone to stand up for what they say. If they had any integrity they would go ahead and rule him off the ballot like Maine did… saying’ protest peacefully is not instigating a insurrection and the timing of his message to go home has nothing to do with insurrection. I don’t see any differance, it’s all a witch hunt from that day Jan 6 till now..it’s the way a person perceives that event. Many see it as a protest against a suspiciously run election because of the last second rule changes that were put in place because of covid by the democrat electors and judgesof each state with very little thought as to the process or the outcome . No different than the carnage that went on after the death of George Floyd. Some democrat politicians enticed those riots or protests . It’s how you perceive the incident.

1. The Colorado lawsuit was not brought by Democrats but by Republican and unaffiliated voters.
2. The George Floyd protests were not encouraged by Democratic politicians. If you've got evidence otherwise, I'd like to see it.
3. Allowing absentee voting was not done at the "last second" as those states had every right to change their laws, especially to reduce crowding together during the pandemic, and in places where most didn't think they needed to wear masks. opponents had months to challenge the laws, but lacked justification in many cases. Absentee voting is cheaper to run and still very secure. Republicans just hate it because they do poorly when more people vote.
ALSO, Kamala on Stephen Colbert: “But they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop. They’re not. This is a movement. I’m telling you. They’re not going to stop, and everyone, beware. Because they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before election day in November, and they are not going to stop after election day. And everyone should take note of that on both levels. That they’re not going to let up. And they should not, and we should not.”

"They should not, and WE should not"??!!!! Nope, no support there either, huh?
Edited by Mr Good Guy on Sun 12/31/23 03:29 PM
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Bart

Sun 12/31/23 04:22 PM



I know about the many other states that will try to keep him off the ballot but they are waiting to see if the SCOTUS will take this case and rule it unconstitutional which most experts believe will happen . I hope a ruling does keep Trump on the ballot but these states don’t want to ruffle the feathers of any constituents if they don’t have to. Just another case of the democrat politicians not having the backbone to stand up for what they say. If they had any integrity they would go ahead and rule him off the ballot like Maine did… saying’ protest peacefully is not instigating a insurrection and the timing of his message to go home has nothing to do with insurrection. I don’t see any differance, it’s all a witch hunt from that day Jan 6 till now..it’s the way a person perceives that event. Many see it as a protest against a suspiciously run election because of the last second rule changes that were put in place because of covid by the democrat electors and judgesof each state with very little thought as to the process or the outcome . No different than the carnage that went on after the death of George Floyd. Some democrat politicians enticed those riots or protests . It’s how you perceive the incident.

1. The Colorado lawsuit was not brought by Democrats but by Republican and unaffiliated voters.
2. The George Floyd protests were not encouraged by Democratic politicians. If you've got evidence otherwise, I'd like to see it.
3. Allowing absentee voting was not done at the "last second" as those states had every right to change their laws, especially to reduce crowding together during the pandemic, and in places where most didn't think they needed to wear masks. opponents had months to challenge the laws, but lacked justification in many cases. Absentee voting is cheaper to run and still very secure. Republicans just hate it because they do poorly when more people vote.
ALSO, Kamala on Stephen Colbert: “But they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop. They’re not. This is a movement. I’m telling you. They’re not going to stop, and everyone, beware. Because they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before election day in November, and they are not going to stop after election day. And everyone should take note of that on both levels. That they’re not going to let up. And they should not, and we should not.”

"They should not, and WE should not"??!!!! Nope, no support there either, huh?


Thanks for posting this mr. good guy. I didn’t think I was the only one to see the Vice President say that. but Mortman is confused , I said enticed not encouraged, there’s a big difference there…there were others also like Maxine waters that chimed in with some hateful racist statement.and I believe Nancy P failed to denounce it when given the opportunity..
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catinidaho

Sun 12/31/23 04:49 PM

One day with no politics?
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Mortman

Sun 12/31/23 07:37 PM

Context matters. Kamala wasn't supporting riots. but protests against racism.

Edited by Mortman on Sun 12/31/23 07:39 PM
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Bart

Tue 01/02/24 04:42 AM


Context matters. Kamala wasn't supporting riots. but protests against racism.




Context matters: Trump wasn’t supporting insurrection. He was supporting a protest against a corrupt election that was brought on by democrat lawmakers and their last second rule changes for votes being collected and counted…. FACT…
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Mortman

Tue 01/02/24 11:45 AM

Context matters: Trump wasn’t supporting insurrection. He was supporting a protest against a corrupt election that was brought on by democrat lawmakers and their last second rule changes for votes being collected and counted…. FACT…

If state lawmakers pass laws to allow people to vote more easily during a pandemic, it's not illegal, and those changes didn't happen at the last minute. The RNC had months to register complaints, and failed to show how letting people vote by mail hurt the Republicans or broke the law.

The fact is that state legislatures are allowed to set the way they conduct their elections, especially if that means they let their residents vote. Protesting it is fine, but sending a crowd to the capitol building to assault the police and conspiring with others to prevent the peaceful transfer of power is certainly not. So here we are.