Topic: Reflections on the Role of Women
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JulieABush

Sun 12/15/24 01:05 PM


A good friend of mine once told me that his wife had spent all their married life changing him. Many years later when they were getting a divorce she told him he wasn't the man she married. laugh

Again I’m not one of those women.
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Slim gym

Sun 12/15/24 05:22 PM



Women have a great role to play in our daily lives .... changing men to suit themselves is not one of them ...
The only time a woman can change a man is when he is in diaper wearing mode . tongue2 tongue2

Unfortunately some women can be controlling and I for one am not one of them. As far as the diaper thing if the man is physically capable of doing so he can change his own diaper of course that Dependslaugh .


Actually , I meant when a man is still a baby ... and Dependent on his Mom to do it ... coz he cannot Depend on his Father ha ha !!! Women are so much better .....
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catinidaho

Sun 12/15/24 10:22 PM

I have no maternal instincts. That is also a line from a movie, that nobody will understand. What is the role of a woman?
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Duttoneer

Mon 12/16/24 01:40 AM

“Then the Lord God said, ‘It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him’” (Genesis 2:18). “So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh” (Genesis 2:21). “And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, ‘This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of Man” (Genesis 2:22–23)
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JulieABush

Mon 12/16/24 04:14 AM




Women have a great role to play in our daily lives .... changing men to suit themselves is not one of them ...
The only time a woman can change a man is when he is in diaper wearing mode . tongue2 tongue2

Unfortunately some women can be controlling and I for one am not one of them. As far as the diaper thing if the man is physically capable of doing so he can change his own diaper of course that Dependslaugh .


Actually , I meant when a man is still a baby ... and Dependent on his Mom to do it ... coz he cannot Depend on his Father ha ha !!! Women are so much better .....

Yes, men are big babies but your wife is not your mother as their roles are a little different. If a man brags about his mother doing this or that for him and continues to think that way I’d send him back to her. Shaming a wife for not being like his mother is a turn off for me and should be for any woman. Their are single dad’s who have to change diapers so it depends on the situation.
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JulieABush

Mon 12/16/24 01:15 PM


“Then the Lord God said, ‘It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him’” (Genesis 2:18). “So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh” (Genesis 2:21). “And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, ‘This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of Man” (Genesis 2:22–23)

And I think there’s verses after that mentioned to the fact that a man shall leave his father and mother and cling to his wife and something about the two shall become one flesh.
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catinidaho

Mon 12/16/24 08:35 PM

If this is about the Bible and religious, I'm all out.
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Duttoneer

Tue 12/17/24 01:53 AM



“Then the Lord God said, ‘It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him’” (Genesis 2:18). “So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh” (Genesis 2:21). “And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, ‘This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of Man” (Genesis 2:22–23)

And I think there’s verses after that mentioned to the fact that a man shall leave his father and mother and cling to his wife and something about the two shall become one flesh.


Yes you are right. I take it to mean the two become one in a marriage relationship. We know not everyone marries or has a marrital relationship, Jesus never married in his life on earth.
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JulieABush

Tue 12/17/24 12:20 PM

Uh oh we offended someshocked .
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Poundsit

Sat 12/28/24 04:40 PM

I don't. I don't give them any thought . They are rude and cannot drive for **** out here in California. There's thousands upon thousands of them here , they are rarely seen because theor men all go.out im.public in.groups trying to mad dog us Americans . Got a surprise for you guys , first off you.dont scare anyone, second gathering in groups standing around at the gym or Walmart on ur phones isn't gonna get you laid by American females. matter of fact while ur out with.your boyfriends all day ur woman are getting a taste of the American male cuisine . For real
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Frankie

Sat 12/28/24 04:45 PM

Exactly
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Mr Good Guy

Sat 12/28/24 06:38 PM


I don't. I don't give them any thought . They are rude and cannot drive for **** out here in California. There's thousands upon thousands of them here , they are rarely seen because theor men all go.out im.public in.groups trying to mad dog us Americans . Got a surprise for you guys , first off you.dont scare anyone, second gathering in groups standing around at the gym or Walmart on ur phones isn't gonna get you laid by American females. matter of fact while ur out with.your boyfriends all day ur woman are getting a taste of the American male cuisine . For real
What language are you trying to speak?
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Loyyed

Sat 12/28/24 10:37 PM

I agree

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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sun 12/29/24 08:07 AM




“Then the Lord God said, ‘It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him’” (Genesis 2:18). “So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh” (Genesis 2:21). “And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, ‘This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of Man” (Genesis 2:22–23)

And I think there’s verses after that mentioned to the fact that a man shall leave his father and mother and cling to his wife and something about the two shall become one flesh.


Yes you are right. I take it to mean the two become one in a marriage relationship. We know not everyone marries or has a marrital relationship, Jesus never married in his life on earth.

You leave out that marriage as what we (and you) understand it to be is an invention of church and that church wasn't founded yet when Jesus was on Earth.

You also conveniently forget that Jesus DID have a wife: Mary Magdalene.
Both were highly educated Essenes of higher descend.
They were equals and she was part of his work as such. The then rising patriarchal shizzel changed that and she got demonised as that was easier for men to stomach.
According to church she was a wh*re, according to Jesus, his mother, the Essenes etc. she was his beloved equal.
Meaning that everyone who takes on church's view on Mary Magdalene doesn't follow Jesus' teachings at all. Yet they claim to be.

Another thing you leave out is that Adam had 2 wives. The first -Lilith- didn't want to be inferior to him as he demanded. Both were created simultaneously by the Divine, and were equal, just different genders. Because of his behaviour she left him. After which she was demonised by religions.
Then he was given a 2nd wive, Eve, and she was obedient and submissive.

I'm not sure how this story truly was construed & presented -in some scrolls prolly- as the whole Adam & Eve story and demonising of his 1st God-given wive is meant to convey that woman must be subservient or else!! (else you get demonised, cast out, not accepted and so on)
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SparklingCrystal 💖💎

Sun 12/29/24 08:16 AM

I'm not sure I get the OP's question as it can be interpreted in plural ways.

As for Arab in their own country, I don't know as I don't live there.

As someone said, it varies per Arab country.
I remember watching a docu on Afghanistan shortly before the situation got bad again. I think this was in the 90s.
Women had gotten a lot of rights, could drive cars, go places, study, and so on.
I clearly recall as I was so happy about this!

I've had highly educated Arab women in my coaching classes. They had reasonable freedom, working in corporate etc. But they still had to fight the patriarchal unbalanced regime and society.

So I think level of education makes a difference for sure.

As for Arab women in my country...
Also depends where they're from.
What I have noticed is that many of them stick together. Maybe they're not allowed to go out alone.
When you then come across such a group in town, shopping centre, market place and so on they're not friendly at all.
Power in numbers, right, and they just barge into you, push you aside when it suits them, and so on.

So in that sense I do not have too high an opinion of them as I don't like such rude behaviour.
In spite of they themselves being oppressed at home they act towards us -in OUR country- as if we are less than they are.
And to be brutally honest, I effing hate that attitude.

Now I think these are more lower or not-educated women.
But those are the ones we get most of. The highly educated ones can lead a good life in their own country, no need to come here.

In short: there is no default. Too many factors at play.
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Duttoneer

Wed 01/01/25 01:23 AM





“Then the Lord God said, ‘It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him’” (Genesis 2:18). “So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh” (Genesis 2:21). “And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, ‘This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of Man” (Genesis 2:22–23)

And I think there’s verses after that mentioned to the fact that a man shall leave his father and mother and cling to his wife and something about the two shall become one flesh.


Yes you are right. I take it to mean the two become one in a marriage relationship. We know not everyone marries or has a marrital relationship, Jesus never married in his life on earth.

You leave out that marriage as what we (and you) understand it to be is an invention of church and that church wasn't founded yet when Jesus was on Earth.

You also conveniently forget that Jesus DID have a wife: Mary Magdalene.
Both were highly educated Essenes of higher descend.
They were equals and she was part of his work as such. The then rising patriarchal shizzel changed that and she got demonised as that was easier for men to stomach.
According to church she was a wh*re, according to Jesus, his mother, the Essenes etc. she was his beloved equal.
Meaning that everyone who takes on church's view on Mary Magdalene doesn't follow Jesus' teachings at all. Yet they claim to be.

Another thing you leave out is that Adam had 2 wives. The first -Lilith- didn't want to be inferior to him as he demanded. Both were created simultaneously by the Divine, and were equal, just different genders. Because of his behaviour she left him. After which she was demonised by religions.
Then he was given a 2nd wive, Eve, and she was obedient and submissive.

I'm not sure how this story truly was construed & presented -in some scrolls prolly- as the whole Adam & Eve story and demonising of his 1st God-given wive is meant to convey that woman must be subservient or else!! (else you get demonised, cast out, not accepted and so on)



I would like to read all about this in the scriptures, please say where I may find this in the Holy Bible, which chapters give this information and enlightenment. I do accept the Holy Bible is from God, as we are told in 2 Timothy chapter 3 verses 16 and 17. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." King James version.