Again I’m not one of those women.

Actually , I meant when a man is still a baby ... and Dependent on his Mom to do it ... coz he cannot Depend on his Father ha ha !!! Women are so much better .....

I have no maternal instincts. That is also a line from a movie, that nobody will understand. What is the role of a woman?

“Then the Lord God said, ‘It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him’” (Genesis 2:18). “So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh” (Genesis 2:21). “And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, ‘This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of Man” (Genesis 2:22–23)

Yes, men are big babies but your wife is not your mother as their roles are a little different. If a man brags about his mother doing this or that for him and continues to think that way I’d send him back to her. Shaming a wife for not being like his mother is a turn off for me and should be for any woman. Their are single dad’s who have to change diapers so it depends on the situation.

And I think there’s verses after that mentioned to the fact that a man shall leave his father and mother and cling to his wife and something about the two shall become one flesh.

If this is about the Bible and religious, I'm all out.

Yes you are right. I take it to mean the two become one in a marriage relationship. We know not everyone marries or has a marrital relationship, Jesus never married in his life on earth.

Uh oh we offended some .

I don't. I don't give them any thought . They are rude and cannot drive for **** out here in California. There's thousands upon thousands of them here , they are rarely seen because theor men all go.out im.public in.groups trying to mad dog us Americans . Got a surprise for you guys , first off you.dont scare anyone, second gathering in groups standing around at the gym or Walmart on ur phones isn't gonna get you laid by American females. matter of fact while ur out with.your boyfriends all day ur woman are getting a taste of the American male cuisine . For real

Exactly

What language are you trying to speak?

"She is strength wrapped in grace, a light that inspires the world."

You leave out that marriage as what we (and you) understand it to be is an invention of church and that church wasn't founded yet when Jesus was on Earth.

You also conveniently forget that Jesus DID have a wife: Mary Magdalene.
Both were highly educated Essenes of higher descend.
They were equals and she was part of his work as such. The then rising patriarchal shizzel changed that and she got demonised as that was easier for men to stomach.
According to church she was a wh*re, according to Jesus, his mother, the Essenes etc. she was his beloved equal.
Meaning that everyone who takes on church's view on Mary Magdalene doesn't follow Jesus' teachings at all. Yet they claim to be.

Another thing you leave out is that Adam had 2 wives. The first -Lilith- didn't want to be inferior to him as he demanded. Both were created simultaneously by the Divine, and were equal, just different genders. Because of his behaviour she left him. After which she was demonised by religions.
Then he was given a 2nd wive, Eve, and she was obedient and submissive.

I'm not sure how this story truly was construed & presented -in some scrolls prolly- as the whole Adam & Eve story and demonising of his 1st God-given wive is meant to convey that woman must be subservient or else!! (else you get demonised, cast out, not accepted and so on)

I'm not sure I get the OP's question as it can be interpreted in plural ways.

As for Arab in their own country, I don't know as I don't live there.

As someone said, it varies per Arab country.
I remember watching a docu on Afghanistan shortly before the situation got bad again. I think this was in the 90s.
Women had gotten a lot of rights, could drive cars, go places, study, and so on.
I clearly recall as I was so happy about this!

I've had highly educated Arab women in my coaching classes. They had reasonable freedom, working in corporate etc. But they still had to fight the patriarchal unbalanced regime and society.

So I think level of education makes a difference for sure.

As for Arab women in my country...
Also depends where they're from.
What I have noticed is that many of them stick together. Maybe they're not allowed to go out alone.
When you then come across such a group in town, shopping centre, market place and so on they're not friendly at all.
Power in numbers, right, and they just barge into you, push you aside when it suits them, and so on.

So in that sense I do not have too high an opinion of them as I don't like such rude behaviour.
In spite of they themselves being oppressed at home they act towards us -in OUR country- as if we are less than they are.
And to be brutally honest, I effing hate that attitude.

Now I think these are more lower or not-educated women.
But those are the ones we get most of. The highly educated ones can lead a good life in their own country, no need to come here.

In short: there is no default. Too many factors at play.

I would like to read all about this in the scriptures, please say where I may find this in the Holy Bible, which chapters give this information and enlightenment. I do accept the Holy Bible is from God, as we are told in 2 Timothy chapter 3 verses 16 and 17. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." King James version.

This is rubbish.

Societies are different all over the world. Societal roles are defined by societies and consequently roles within them are also different.

It is reasonable to hope that societies will evolve and change to the extent that women's roles will become more in line with the western equality ideal.....but societal roles will not change until societies change.

Is the Bible too outdated for y'all? If we go back to the beginning, woman was made FOR the man. She is created to be a helpmeet for him. That can come in various forms, but she should submit to her husband and hopefully he is a man who seeks the Lord's will and is the leader he needs to be.

In western countries it is getting very difficult to even define what a woman is .... leave alone her role in society !
Hopefully , this will change shortly and we again will belive that women are superior to men .... so no need to be equal to men .....

Not exactly true. As a matter of fact, not true at all.
Women are way ahead of men, as always is the case with the feminine. The feminine is always what changes first, then later on the masculine follows.
Not weird as if both would undergo changes at the same time everything would turn to chit. You need one group to keep things running so the other group has the time and space to change.
After they're done the roles reverse.

But in any case, maybe in the US things are vague. I know from my girl when she lived there that women in many cases were still inferior to men.

Over here however, there are courses, workshops, academies and so on about feminine strength, getting back in touch with that, feeling it, experiencing it and so on.

Also the Jungian psychologist Karen Hamaker-Zondag has written a book about the masculine in women and the feminine in men.
It explains in great detail what the role of women is in society, AND that of men.
She addresses both the imbalanced versions and how that pans out (very recognisable) and the balanced versions.
This book is over a decade old, and is basically Jungian psychology which is nothing new.

So women's role in society is well documented and known, that of men too.
In general women are further in their development to being the balanced version than men.
As it is the female forerunners cannot really progress until the masculine counterparts catch up and this is not really happening at the mo.
Meaning in order for the whole of mankind to get to the next level of our growth & evolution men need to get the heck on with it!

None of this is a dig, nor meant to be judgemental.
As I said, it's all researched, documented and so on. I'm just relaying knowledge & info.
Maybe this isn't so well known in the US.
Also understandable as the US isn't exactly a forerunner when it comes to the masculine & feminine.
I think in this case it's Scandinavia and The Netherlands.