..or George Washington ...

.As far as race there will always be those who bring disgrace upon themselves and their race like the riots in LA.

Complain about one kind of injustice while participating in another..yea that makes a lot of sense..

Msharmony, you're like a bloodhound, once you get a cent (smell ) you never give up
It will always be the same. If you have worked you're bits of to build a business and get to the top why wouldn't you want to keep it?
Let's not forget, those at the top employ the next ones down.
Maybe you would have been happier in lenins days of the old soviet union?
Everyone wearing brown shoes and overalls?
Wanting people to be equal?

Things like Affirmative Action had it's place in the beginning but now it has become prejudice. Racism happens in all races

Well the USA is approximately 37 times the size of NZ, not to mention USA population is a lot more than NZ. Plus the USA has border countries and many others, around the world wanting to come to the USA. NZ doesn't have the same issue. You can't compare the 2.

If you want to see some serious racism walk amongst the pakistany and Indian community in the UK. now. That is serious hate!
Then look at cosavo/Bosnia, there is about as much difference between them as there is between fur and hair!
Serious war crimes in the 90's!

I could say the same for you. As well as ask why you are posing these questions to me specifically.

I do not believe I ever implied that people shouldn't want to keep their place. Lets not forget those at the top really dont do much more than keep their status quo by employing others to keep them at the top. Hence, why those at the top have their wealth increase exponentially over the same years the rest of us go through recessions and barely there wage increases.

I would be happy if people were not so selfish and threatened by the idea of sharing their 'spot' with others.

Affirmative Action is the AA for Americas historical racist oppression.

its kind of like AA meetings for alcoholism, its never something that is no longer needed or necessary

it not only works in aiding recovery, but it aids in MAINTAINING the recovery that has been achieved

the paks aren't really racists, since muslums hate everyone equally...

They employ people!
Why don't you start a business and have all the stress but take the same wage as the person driving the truck, stacking the shelves or sweeping the floor!
I directed it to you as you have the most to say about it!
Maybe you should call boing and say, hey, I'll manage your business employing thousands of people but I'll do it for $200 a week!

I know what it is and why it came about. Doesn't mean I don't think it has turned and does more damage than good

noone suggested everyone get the same wage for the same job either. I was responding to many other points in this thread by the way. I post to what is being posted.

my point is not that every job should earn the same wage. My point is that those making profit get carried away at how much MORE profit they can make for their million dollar incomes while continuing to figure out how to pay those workers the least they can ...

they get their chance to go from doing well to doing even better, while those working get to argue about the opportunity to just do for 'anything'

More profit more investment, more investment more jobs!

except the natural cycle of unemployment doesn't show that to have much to do with more or less jobs ...

That's caused by immigration and people bonking!

why work when the Democrats just give them everything for votes?

well, since thats pretty constant as well, Id say thats not a cause either.

we have seen increase and decrease in job creation during times of increased immigration and people 'bonking..'

is the assumption that only democrats use any of the assistance programs? its odd to note then, that it is Republican states that get the most federal assistance from those 'democrats'

Well, I've said before in another thread, don't buy from China, make everything in house but be prepared to pay!
Employment will vary. you can't make something if no one wants it!

I believe we are more than capable of making things people want. Yet, we have to be globally competitive in quality as well as price, while employing Americans to do the job.