When you have section 8 paying over $1000 a month for housing that's comparable to a minimum wage job. Add in foodstamps. Somebody once posted he knew somebody getting over $800. That close to twice minimum wage. Add in medical. No premiums, copays or deductibles, plus the usual 20%, dental etc. Your at 3 times minimum wage, add in wic, help with utilities, and a check. That's close to 4 times minimum wage. Welfare is causing the breakdown of the family unit. White people are getting on the welfare gravy too. That means less are working. Less paying into that system. I can't say that I blame them. In the long run it will get welfare changes. Hopefully the family unit will be restored.

From what a guy posted on dh a while back, I would say welfare is going after men more. He call welfare a loan shark. If word is spreading that men are being held accountable for their kids, it might be making a difference in the black community.

in all communities.

4 times the minimum wage? 32 dollars an hour? times 160 hours a month , 5120 a month? where is one living where their expenses come to that much a month?

I made twice minimum wage (16) an hour, which after taxes left me about 2 grand a month. 800 for rent would bring it down to 1200. my insurance was about 300 for me and one child, which leaves me 900 and milk and utilities dont come to that much....

this is more the scenario, when I made 10 an hour, (1600) a month with one child, meant I was under 130 percent of poverty guidelines. I was able to receive a whopping 300 for food and 300 check, that would be the same at 1600 or ZERO income as long as it was below the threshold, because i went on Family Size , for snap, about 1.50 per meal per person, and for TANF, it varies by state.

so that was 600 in assistance and adding on the hypothetical 800 for rent, thats 1400, not close to 4 times minimum wage, even if I add in the 300 for medical/dental per month, its still not 4 times minimum wage.



hopefully, wages will get on par with cost of living increases ... so fewer will need assistance to pull through.

Clearly these thugs need some target practice if they are only killing 10% of the people they shoot. Finding the babies daddies is something the welfare system does, however easier said then done. The momma has to give up the name (if she even knows) and then a DNA test needs to be done to prove it. As far as $300 for insurance for a month I will need to know where to get this, it more like $600+ a month and that doesn't even take into account the deductible, copays, prescriptions, and the time off work to go to the doctor. If I had the whole day off collecting welfare I would have plenty of time to cook, babysit for cash, or sit around and do drugs all day. Surly there is something we can have these people doing.

This is so sad. It's a huge burden on the decent people of Chicago. The benefit should be changed to cremation only. $1500 here. It's not the victims fault but it's not the tax payers fault either. A portion of the victims live the same thug lifestyle.

The break down of the family has caused many kids to become criminals.
No mature adult male figure that can spend quality time with the boys.

Also many girls grow up with low morals and family values, with the absence of a Dad in the home.

Unfortunately, these young people need help and guidance Before they
Become thugs and Criminals. Once they do, they need to be arrested and removed from Society. For what ever sentence that fits Their Crimes.

IMO

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-weekend-shootings-august-27-2018/

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23 shot.. 2 killed

And Sunday just begun...

2011? I gave you data from Sept 2017. Then I checked again. Liberal spins don't change facts.

I'm not sure about that. When I worked at Honda, those young black girls were having unprotected sex with any man they could, trying to get pregnant. I had never seen anything like it in my life. In a lot of way they were mimicking animal behavior.