Exactly.

perhaps identify criminals BEFORE the crime, by making the possession itself a crime without proper documents, kind of like citizenship.


having a gun is a right. however if one is carrying without the proper registration and documentation/licensing, it should be treated as an offense in itself with the guns AT THAT POINT (after an actual crime AND verification of illegal ownership) be stripped from them as well as their right to have a weapon.

perhaps a license database for legal gun ownership just like driver license, that police can check against id to verify the owner has no restriction on carrying.

there are things that can be done, that are not gonna be any problem for 'legal' gun owners.

That's a great idea. Making it a crime if the gun you are carrying isn't registered to you and also charging someone with carrying a unregistered gun AFTER he commits the crime

Great IDEAS!!!!!

Guess what... those are already the LAW in Chicago .. and has been for a very very long time.

And who has it stopped???????

With all due respect MS, but it appears you have little clue as to the caliper of the gangbangers were are talking about...very little

First of all, I would bet none of them.. zero.. could legally get a gun license due to their background... none of them

2nd).. as stated by many, they could care less about ANY law.

Selling heroine is illegal.. in every state... right?.. long jail term waits for those who do.. right?. Has that stopped them from selling heroine??? has it?

But a new gun law.. or ANY law.. will stop them from getting and carrying guns.... newsflash... not happening.

You really should educate yourself on these thugs.. in order to really know the folks you are talking about.

Start with the "gangster disciples".. the biggest thug gang in Chicago.. research them, their history, their members, their criminal pasts. The rest are no different.

BTW, 7 shot last night in Chicago.. and the weekend has barely begun.

BTW, 7 shot last night in Chicago.. and the weekend has barely begun.



Thugs and murders need to be eliminated from society!!! Lock them up!


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My close friend drove a limo to Chicago airport for couple years. After he retired from Caterpillar downstate. He has money but did it because he was bored not working.

He stopped driving because it was getting to Dangerous.


He said to me recently if they don't do something in Chicago soon, about the Thugs many more innocent people will be in Great harm. Those too poor to get out of crime areas.


Maybe when poor people learn not to depend on Government checks snd get their Butts a JOB. They can move to a better area or Town even!!!!

then perhaps cops should do a better job enforcing against illegal carry, instead of names and colors ?

perhaps when there are better jobs FOR poor people to move up with, they will...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/14-hours-in-chicago-26-people-shot-including-3-year-old-boy/ar-BBM4fE1?ocid=spartandhp
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O.K. now its lunchtime

26 people shot including a 3 YEAR OLD KID


Now please explain again because I still do NOT understand.

1) why should we not sent in the National Guard ?
2) How exactly are the new gun laws going to stop this?
3) How is this societies fault?
4) Why would thugs decide to stop shooting and work 9 to 5 jobs when they make more then most working class selling drugs?


Really.. I mean ... really... lets call it what it is.. o.k. and stop with the deflection of responsibility and visions of a rosy 2050

It is the 4 major thug gangs doing the VAST majority if this.. and we all know who they are. what they are who raised them.

How many more kids need to be shot!!!!

Now its the cops fault?????????????..

1. Because it sets a precedent which would call for the guard in MANY cities, not just Chicago, to do the job of the cops.

2. Laws sometimes deter crime. Laws sometimes only help identify criminals from non. Deterrence is good as is the just profiling of individuals based in their illegal activity, not in their non illegal choice of clothes or birth name.

3.Everything is tied together in this world. I am not one to get into discussions on 'fault' but more about responsibility which can be spread around. If you have a man in a blue suit beat a dog everyday, soon the dog learns to be defensive against people in blue suit. Children are conditioned by the surroundings and the situations they are immersed in. We learn what we grow up around. Because society plays a part in infrastructure and economic opportunity, it plays a part in where and w hat these kids end up being immersed in and conditioned by. Because media and education play a part in how kids learn to view and think of themselves, they play a part in how a child grows up to identify and who they identify with.

4.Why would anyone take a pay cut? Most would not, unless there were other benefits that made it worth it. That is why pathways to better paying jobs need to be more readily accessible for kids in under served communities. That is why they need opportunities to see themselves as valued and capable. That is why they need opportunities to experience the world beyond their communities and limited perception of their own potential.


No kids need to be shot, in suburbia or 'ghettos'. We dont need to live in such a violent and divided culture. But it is what it is. and we can put a bandaid over it that makes it look nice and clean for a moment, but that isnt gonna heal the wound without it being disinfected and properly cared for.

I dont play the fault and blame game, Im more about responsibility, reflection, and solution.

There are JOBS for POOR people! No , many are LAZY !!! Don't and Won't

Work. If jobs grew on trees,LAZY people wouldn't pick one.

Nothing justifies Lazy POOR people who suck on government funds, like a baby on a tit !!!

Well then continue to live on fantasy island while the bodies pile up
And continue to deflect personnel responsibility..to others.
And continue to defend based on color alone and not fact

And all will be fine in Chicago .. not this weekend of course. Or the near future.. but someday..maybe someday .if the folks there get to live that long

You sure as hell did blame cops

Thugs, murderers, are scum no matter what ethnicity! They need a heart change and without that they won't change.

They have a job as hoodlums !!

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Amid the surging violence and bloodshed, pressure has been building for action by Mayor Rahm Emanuel, or for his resignation. He came under fire this past week for comments linking the violence outbursts in his city and the moral character of people in some ethnic neighborhoods. 
.“This may not be politically correct," he said, "but I know the power of what faith and family can do. … Our kids need that structure. … I am asking … that we also don’t shy away from a full discussion about the importance of family and faith helping to develop and nurture character, self-respect, a value system and a moral compass that allows kids to know good from bad and right from wrong.”
Critics attacked him for laying blame on the victims of the violence.

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Like him or not ( and I don't claim to now anything about him or his views)

But what he said is true. And for saying it critics attack him


This is how PC is crippling common sense

Lol..

Hoodrats just need hugs, and more gubbahmint cheese.
That seems to have worked well, so far.